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I've yet to score with Eto'o because he's doing so much work across midfield as well :laugh: He's definitely a first purchase for me on MLO. Shame they reduced his stats though. Quite a bit as well.

Ha! I can beat that! I won't buy players I consider unrealistic for the team I'm using. I've never bought Messi, Ronaldo or any other greats. I also quit a ML after a season where I finished 1st and got promoted when I realised I'd linked my D2 to the wrong D1!

Eto'o has great agility. Simply put even when not sprinting he's a nightmare for the AI to handle. Simply dribbling with L1 or R2 with Eto'o makes him a great forward in terms of holding the ball up by being such a wriggly so and so.

I wonder whether the criteria the low scoring reviewers judge a sports game on is 'instant accessibility'.

-2 Gives the game a better feel indeed, it takes the 'manic' out of the gameplay. On 0 its just too 'busy' and can be quite a headache as you end concentrating so hard. The idea is akin to real life, these are decent players so you can't run at them and just expect to tackle them. I find...

I'm actually really looking forward to the Iberian ML, which is plumbing even further depths of sad bastardness. I know I'm going to choose a relatively average team and get comprehensively beat by the decent teams.

I've yet to even score on Top Player. In terms of reviewing a PES game that would normally alienate me but it makes me appreciate the longevity this PES will provide me.

Top Player is unbelievably challenging and the big achievement on Master League on Top Player is going to be just avoiding being fired!

This is actually a good idea but I think its going to get over run with fanboys and pessimists at loggerheads with each other. I think its difficult to review PES2012 early doors because given time to master it I suspect this could be the most rewarding version of PES we have had in a very...

We get the Portuguese league this year which I'm pretty pleased about. Call me an epically sad bastard but it means I can play an Iberian league now on Master League.

Best way to do that is to email them forum news. Dan Bolas is a prompt replier of emails so he'd be the best choice.

I'll probably just go straight out on Top Player as its all I've ever played for years. Your point about the catch up bug isn't correct though young sir, I've played PES2012 and its nothing like PES2011 in terms of slow players catching speedy players. Its a lot more realistic it must be said.

I'll be looking to build my team differently this time, strong defenders with good response, decent dribblers and passers in midfield, pace and power up front. In terms of what I've seen from the demo's, I'll definitely be looking to pick up Samuel Eto'o and Maicon.

:lmao: Bless. A valiant attempt. I shouldn't encourage you though. ... Lets get back on topic now.

Hmm that was fairly restrained by your standards. Maybe you're mellowing.

I was unsure whether to buy PES2012 seeing how shat I am at it but the ML in football life looks absolutely immense! I have no choice BUT to buy it now on the strength of that alone.

I'd bear in mind chaps that there are signature size restrictions that the admin team posted recently.

It'll take at least an hour as well. Fun times.

Stop being a pillock. I hate 'enabling' you like this ... but as ridiculous as it is I will ... Explaining how the controls work effectively and showing you how to dribble would make the game more desirable to buy. Feel free to reply with something utterly absurd again.

At bloody last ... just shame I've got to delete the 1000+ files individually for PES2011 when the first wave of option files arrive :pinderpalm: