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Its still R1. Although the R2 dribbling is ridiculously effective (as is L1) I prefer to use stop the ball and then tap R1 diagonally into a 'push and go' motion. You always beat your man with it.

:laugh: Nah its not that, its the lack of training options on the demo. You really need dribbling training to take on the computer at Top Player as its unbelievably challenging. I'm waiting for the game, going straight to training and working on my weaknesses on PES2012 ... which is...

I tried some of the FIFA games but to me they were vapid attempts at football. PES has always had better gameplay although clearly flawed. This year's is ball bustingly difficult but then I guess it has been a little too easy previous years.

Juventus have a decent squad this year so they are a definite no no. Napoli are borderline as well.

I've heard from a friend that if you press R2 and R1 together when you have the ball near an opponent you get a sprint start to get away from the opposition. If thats true it'll bloody help on top player AI. Why are so many of the controls not fully explained on the demo? Why does the demo not...

After watching the videos posted on Youtube of Football life on the 80% complete PES2012 its made up my mind. Shit at it or not, I'm getting PES2012. The Master League offline mode looks the best it's ever been. I wish the demo had at least touched on that segment of the game in terms of getting...

A setting higher than Top Player? Fuck that, I'm barely scraping draws on Professional!

That makes perfect sense and it is what my friends and I do for our tournaments. We also seed the players against a list of teams and then they randomly pick a team from a cup out of that list (so intermediate players don't get the best picks etc). I got Ghana at the last Tournament, was a bit...

Nope it was 0-0 and I was Benfica. I was attacking your goal when the connection went. I've got 20mb broadband but only PES gives me problems, goddamn Konami servers! *shakes fist* Oh I'd never blame Spartak, McGeady makes a great centreback ;) PESGaming comp sounds good, we thinking MLO or...

Wrong thread ... but yes in answer to your question.

He beat me once. He took it very seriously in fact. Not I, I picked some ridiculously inadequate team and promptly hacked him all over the pitch until I got a player sent off :laugh: You'd be surprised how often that works against other players, they get infuriated by the fouling it...

Judging me on one game I didn't take seriously I see :laugh: I remember in the 2nd game when I picked a decent team I was dominating possession and oh all so suddenly the connection is lost :hmm: I wasn't much cop on MLO, everyone canes the arse out of through balls. You can't do that though...

I've noticed huge improvements already on the demo in terms of stats but I'm expecting Jack Wilshere to be vastly improved.

Crying? Oh you! [Shakes fist comedically] This looks like the first PES to seriously challenge FIFA, a work colleague who is an ardent FIFA fan has said that the new tackling and jockey system has 'rather' upset the FIFA players.

If you're referring to me you'll find I openly admitted that I'm finding it hard because I'm utterly shit at it. I'll still get it when its released but I suspect I'll always be shite at it. If you weren't referring to me ... well I'll get off my soapbox :laugh:

I've forgotten why I wanted to thank you [scratches head in confused fashion] I didn't realise my honest appraisal of how shit I am at a video game constituted as whining? :lol: It wasn't like this when we were kids dear boy ... in 1917.

You fucking know it! :lol:

God bless Konami's servers. They are shite :lol:

Wow. You sure told me. Boy is my face red after that put down. :lmao: Honestly. You kids. :facepalm: EDIT: I've Just realised, I've been trolled! :lol:

I've tried pretty much everything I can think of, retained possession waited for passing opportunities varied my passing from short to long ball and to no avail in the final third. My biggest problem is executing through balls, something that was too easy on PES2011 is so much tougher on...