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I can't believe how many people say that FIFa 09 is a massive improvement and is going to be better the PES2009. I just playe dthe demo and i had to make sure i had loaded the correct demo, at first i thought it was the 08 demo from last year! The controls are still sluggish, and nothing...

All this excitment! I can't wait to find out!

i don't see no Arsenal? or Chelsea for that matter.

those pictures made me do a sex wee....... a little bit!

exactly. Ever seen David seamans jeepers keepers:D football just wouldn't be football without crazzzzzzy goalkeepers, and its good to see pro evo 2009 will be including the jens lehmans of the footballing world:rolleyes:

seems all good, apart from the bit where you may give away penalties or corners because of the player movement or animation. I don't mind silly goalkeeping errors, because in real life goalkeepers DO make silly mistakes! I think PES 2009 would be worse if every goalkeeper was perfect, it just...

what if pes2009 flops so badly that Konami sack seabass, he then gets snapped up by EA to assist in producion of FIFA. My point is, how long will konami give seabass before they have had enough. They need to be seen making progress.

yes thats all well and good, but ewood park isn't going to be in the game. Its only going to be the big stadia with all the high tech heated soil etc etc. (maybe ewood park has under soil heating, i don't know) but the point is, a game being played at the new wembley with snow will look good...

good point. You just wouldn't see a frozen pitch at wembley or stad da france, not with all the state of the art under soil heating etc. it would be nice to see snow and the orange ball, but frozen pitches is a NO NO! (maybe on the training ground)

sorry, but the goal nets mean everything. It is the pinnicle of the game imo! There is no feeling in the world when you see a ball hit the back of the net, wheather its your team or its against you. When you see that net ripple you know something special has happened, it is what everyone...

yeah, looks better but wasn't there a problem with frame rates in 2008, hence the patch? by the way the goals look the same with those daft sandbags still holding the nets down? wtf, what stadium had sandbags hold the nets? all looks the same to me.

Hey, I have loaded an option file etc, and also some kits. When playing my master league the kits show up fine when playing at home but when i play away the kits don't show, i have reloaed each manually and still the samething. any ideas?

great option file, any chance of a .psv option file with a few championship teams in? so that the master league can be full of english teams

LOL! because americans call football soccer when really soccer is called football, it is only named soccer for the americans sake because they might get it confused with the game they call football where they actually use there hands!

it may improve it, and set it to 720p NOT 1080i.

normal, did you install the game and the patch? i installed the patch but still but i still get the same problem. as i think every one does.

its bullshit, i have a bt homehub, and i haven't been able to get online ever with this game, i have been into the router settings and unblocked this and that but its no good, i have accepted the fact that i ain't getting online with this version of proevo. All my other games connect online...

are you talking about NFL08?

This is the file that gets updated when you install the patch.

yes, this is what LCD's are like, not as good at keeping up with fast moving pictures as a plasma would be. it won;t just be pro evo, if you watch a real football match you will get the same effect. What make is it?