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I can't now either.

That's the license that people are speculating could turn out to be the Champions League. Anyway, the rest was a good read, even if I'd already pretty much heard/read everything already.

I tend to play with the two licensed English teams first. Although that changed in 08, when it was Real-Barca at the laggy Bernabeu. >_>

Doubt it, but if that's the real date, amazing. Remember though, PES is usually released on a Friday. The 1st October is a Wednesday. I'm thinking more along the lines of the 17th/24th October for release.

First off, I want the powerbar back when taking penalties. They're too easy at the moment. And yeah, I would support cut-scenes, but only if you could skip them. That's because after the first few times of seeing them, you probably won't want to again, but it's nice to have the option to...

Didn't the video say "a free trial to all users throughout the 2008/09 season," so basically up until May 2009, which is good enough I think. All looks good in that video. I too am impressed. I REALLY don't want to get to high on Fifa though, because I don't really want to buy PES AND Fifa...

I hope playing at stadiums this time actually "feels" like you're playing a game at that stadium. Before when I used to play as Man Utd on PES6, I never liked playing at Old Trafford on there. Something just didn't seem right about it, even if the stadium "looked" good before you played a...

My honest opinion is that the camera was too shaky, which put me off watching it straight away. Seriously, there's like 20 other Fifa videos you could've used to get our honest opinions on. >_>

QFE. When I read it, I thought "maybe the guy is right," after all I'm not on WENB and Adam might well be a "prick". What am I to know? But when I realised it was your one and only post here, it does raise suspicions a little.

The lights look good, but they don't seem to be having an effect on the pitch, because everything looks so dark. It might just be the video, but I've always found that Fifa seems quite dark, even when playing in sunshine.

Which out of those are completely new to the PES series ? Is the Konami Stadium new? I don't seem to recall that one. I don't think we've had Benfica's or FC Twente's stadium on the game before either. As for others, River Plate's might have been there but under a different name. EDIT...

Lol at the Fifa keeper at 2.54. Fifa fans come on here and bash the PES keepers, when Fifa's clearly aren't any better.

Yeah, I can see the point of all childrens' replica shirts not sporting the sponsers of alcohol and betting companies, but the fact they're not allowed to appear in a game is stupid. Children watch the real Liverpool and Real Madrid with sponsers that "promote" alcohol/gambling...

About what? Life? Or are you talking about something PES related here? Hard to tell going on that post...

No video window appearing for me. :(

Why are you putting links to the same videos in every thread? It's annoying coming into a thread thinking I'll be reading something of note, only to find a post I saw in another thread 10 minutes ago.

Just feel fortunate that the PES ML community (might as well call them that >_>) didn't get what they wanted this year, and that's an even more in-depth Master League. If you're complaining over a small piece of player interaction this year, I shudder to think what you'll be thinking in 2010...

You didn't look far then... greekwow said "ronaldo kick from FIFA 09 is miles better" - Nothing more, nothing less. Just a stupid post. As I say, it looks good on both. But it looks MILES better on Fifa? No way. The ONLY improvement Fifa's has is the breathing in Ronaldo does before he...

For what it's worth, I think both games have captured it quite well. The thing that annoys me is whenever a video is posted, the postwhores/fanboys appear with one lined responses like "lol fifa's beta lol". It's really dragging the board down, and pissing me off.

You've harped on about having your own "opinion," and yet you say it's wrong for someone else to prefer PES 2008 over Fifa 08.