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This is the reason you're annoying so many people on here. You've never played Fifa 09, yet it's better than any previous PES release. What a load of shit. PES 2012 > Fifa 09 Eat that. Is the point I'm making stupid? Yes. As is yours.

The guys at WENB aren't saying PES 2009 is bad though. All they said was Konami's preview video leaves itself open to criticism from people like you. At the bottom they told us that what they tested played a lot better than what was shown.

Kits discussion, anyone?

Trust chinaman to post a negative response. "So while I’m condemning the showing, I do want to reassure the fans that PES 2009 is so much better then this snippet demo. If what you’ve seen so far has pleased you then you’re in for a serious treat." Amen. No need for its own thread, which...

Can't you go home or something? It seems you're here to have digs at PES, tell us how great Fifa is, and nothing else. Probably better on a Fifa forum. Yes, you responded to a message of mine questioning the Goalkeepers, but you talk as if Fifa's are amazing. Granted, you probably wouldn't...

The point isn't that mistakes can't be made by the best of goalkeepers, of course they can. It's the frequency of them happening in the game that worries me. I've seen them in a few videos now, the one the above guy mentioned included. Someone said that the testers were "playing on Amateur...

Someone will have to confirm it, but I'm almost sure it's been posted on here, because there were people (me included) saying that it makes Liverpool in effect, a wasted license, because there are bound to be people who create a kit for them with Carlsberg printed on the shirts. It's to do...

It'll have something to do with Bwin being a betting company, not licences. Similar to how PES don't show the 888.com sponsor on Sevilla's shirt and Liverpool won't have Carlsberg, due to it being a brand of alcohol.

Lol. Do PESG do post of the month awards here? >_>

I must say, you're easily pleased. Why are you being accused of being a Fifa fanboy? Read your previous posts. They have Ronaldo's Free Kick stance...so fucking what? ISS98 had Roberto Carlos'. You're the kind of person who would buy Fifa 09 if it had updated transfers and Ronaldo's...

I've always questioned the PES keepers, and whatever Konami tell me, I'll likely continue to do so in 2009 and beyond. I've seen at least 2 videos where the keepers have turned out to be shit so far, whether on the amateur difficulty or not, it still shouldn't happen as frequent as it has. I...

To be honest, chinaman, you said to begin with that you weren't a Fifa fanboy, but most of what you're saying is making you seem like one. From the gameplay vids I've seen from Fifa so far, I can't notice hardly any difference from the previous game. The game speed has upped (for the better)...

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So, you've not seen the screenshot for PES of Ronaldo taking his signature free-kick then?

Oh, I'm not worried as such, but it's easy to see why people have at least a little pessimism going into it.

Here's where I need clarification... What is it that people want added to the Master League exactly? I, for one, am happy with it the way it is. It can be glitchy sometimes, but it does its job. The training thing being taken out wasn't a big loss in my opinion, but I do see the point of...

Why do EA insist on showing an on the whole, graphically brilliant screenshot, only to completely ruin it by showing the back of Tevez, where the fake HUGE printing of the player names still exists, and the tiny numbering. I dunno, maybe the numbering is of correct size, but the gigantic...

A good game? THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION, proevofan88!! >_> Seriously though, if the "We are expecting it" seems like a hint that the CL will be included to any of you, it's not really a good one, seeing as I'm not really expecting it. There are plenty of people hoping it'll be included...

I'm 90% sure you can use JPG images for the badges, because it was in one of the previews (possilby even WENB's) for the game.

I think Liverpool knew they'd be licensed ages ago, hence the PES 2009 ad-boards appearing at Anfield earlier (to my knowledge) than everyone else.