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I like it.

Both look great.

Licenses, more real ML, bigger edit mode (I know it will be good, but it''s not bad to continue expanding the edit mode) and a stadium editor.

ps3 doesn't have better graphics at all. They're equal. I only have a 360 so that's what I'll get. BTW why is it a hard time to put a downloaded option file on the 360 hdd?

Pes 5 cover was dull and dull covers aren't so professional either because the subject of the game (Football) is not a dark thing. Well it's my opinion.

It looks good

Me too and Pes 09 will for sure be good.

The 360 has a feature to save files from a usb but I wanna know if it works or not because I never tried.

^Yeah me too. It's enough for this year to make it the best Pes ever. I prefer the CL to be a seperate mode as it will be more focused and realistic.

Well a seperate mode works better I suppose because of the lack of other teams in the ML.

Wait, play pes09 and then compare it. From the videos it looks like pes 5 attack/defense style but it's only based on the videos. Well maybe you said "yet" because pes 09 is not out yet.

^Didn't notice that. As for the debut. It has only 10pts so it could be that when you first play the CL, it unlocks the achievements. I did some achievements by playing modes for the first time in other games and since it's only 10, it could be.

PES 09 by miles. It looks so professional.

The picture is not showing in my scren.

I like player's name above their heads. Actually I use both.

^Yeah because those achievents shows that you need to pass a seperate mode. Conquered Europe A title awarded when you win the Master League European Championship. 20 This shows that the ML still has european champiuonship, so I don't think CL will be in ML. As for the debut, could it be that...

I think serie A will be licensed.

What about La liga teams?

Pes 2009 is a completly different game. It's so awesome.

Man Utd and liverpool. It's always 2 teams.