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^I hope so too. The better the competition the better the games will be.

I said Pes 5 and 6 not pes 08. Pes 08 wasn't good as it was suppose to. I think even pes 4 was like 5 and 6.

If you weren't a fanboy you wouldn't post on the whole forum with how great Fifa is. When the games are out we'll compare. Happy. Pes 09 has improved from pes 08 wheather you want to admit it or not.

People will always complain about games. I will have to say the final judgment when thwe game is released. As for graphics, Pro is better apart from the stadiums. The player models are much better in pro. Also everyone will respect your opinion but you don't need to post it in every topic and...

STFU. You are annoying me. You're spamming on PESgaming about how great fifa is. Well go find a fifa forum or else you can post an opinion but not post it on the whole forum like what you're doing. Everyone who have seen the pes 09 videos said that it's better than 08 and the whole pes feeling...

^No. In pro every goal feels different at least in pes 5 and 6. You can never score the same goal twice. That was a fifa diasdvantage and in Fifa 08 it was better but still not enough. Admit it. Even the biggest noob in games can score a goal like that. Luck is the answer. Lucky moments are...

^Agreed. The edit mode looks awesome.

I didn't contradict myself. I said that in fifa they shoot with both legs even if a player is right foot. He can shoot just as good with his left. In Pro it's much more difficult to score with the weaker foot. I played Fifa 08 and yes it is an improvement and I admit that it was the best fifa...

^Yeah. If anyone says that pes 09 is the same as 08 then it obvious that he's a fanboy of Fifa. You need to be blind not to notice the difference.

Have you seen Chech in the euro? He was supposed to be a very good keepr and yet he made a very big mistake. That's realism.

They're so bad. I loose too. But I will get wins after some games. Also how did you post this in pes 09 forum? Don't take me wrong though.

^Calm down Proevofan 88. The fifa fans will always be annoying. Don't take notice of them. They are trying so hard to justify that Fifa is better but how can they say? Because both games are not out yet and from the videos fifa looks like last year (though I won't judge until the final game is...

What? Liverpool won't have Carlsberg? How do you know?

No but you said Fifa is better in everything in every thread. I respect other's opinion but to say that the graphics are better is pure fanboyism. Now I'll come to respect that but don't post fifa is better in every thread because you're on the wrong forum then. Also if you see the new pes...

Pes has been improved in this version. I'm talking about pes 09. It's so much better than 08. I don't agree with the statement that pes is not improving. It really is.

I'm sorry but you're the biggest idiot. You really are a fifa fanboy who can't stand anything about Pro evo.

Again maybe it will happen much less. Keepres are not gods, mistakes can happen like in real life.

Fifa fanboy SHUT UP. You need to be stupid to say that. I'm sorry but fanboyism is blocking your eyes. Go find a fifa forum.

Maybe you should shut up. Every player can shoot a good shot with ther weaker foot. In fifa they shoot with both legs and they are the same. Almost no difference at all. At least in 07 on ps2 it used to happen to me a lot. Also ameteur is for every player including the goalkeeper. Jesus I...

The graphics are awesome.