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Afraid its a made up name for the way the PES engine bends and scripts the flow of the game to try and force 'interesting' and/or dramatic footballing scenarios... PES6 was the worst of all the series for this and as ProEv veteran yourself, I have no doubts that there was a good few occasions...

I take all that back...just rebooted the game and had 3 of the most exciting matches ever with the exact same team and formation.... For some reason...the games were really open and flowing..... Must be like when my media player keeps banging out Abba when it is set to Random...

I could go out to the shops and buy an Xbox360 for £200. If I wanted to upgrade my PC to a spec that matched the 360's gaming performance.......I would probs have to spend about £800 Decent Quad Core PRocessor....£250 2 Gig of FAST gaming Ram.....£250 Mobo.........£100 DX10...

Dont get me wrong...I beat Brazil 7-2 with France and I do win most of my games.... Its just that they are like........Sheeeeeeesh... tbh.....the game plays a bit like PES1 did in terms of the flow.....perpetually tight......with any openings having to be truly worked at....(or manipulated by...

I have played the demo for hours upon hours now.... I use the 'Yock' time expander and play 15 minute games..... Mostly....I am finding my games to be arduous dull boring affairs and to be honest often find it to be more like effort than fun.... To extend the time of my matches, I have...

NOPE!!! Whilst I get more satisfaction from the build up play in FIFA and trying to gain a pressing hold on the midfiled game.......Scoring on FIFA is just like ......Nothing.....I have scored crackers on FIFA and it just feels kind of bland and kind of like it was more the AI than myself that...

YUP!!!!

Naw...I am thinking that the shooting in the demo CANT be finalised....After all, it is now impossible almost to score a R2 curled top corner shot a la Henry style, which is one of the masterstroke additions to the game the added in PES5...... (easy enough to score R2 curled bottom corner shot...

What makes you think the AI interferes with 2 player any different? I cant say for sure with PES2008, but certainly with PES6, and also PES5 to an extent the AI tampered with the 'Scripting' of 2 player games until the point that it became quite unbearable to play....(like I said...BINNED B4...

First Thing....PES4 was perhaps the WORST PES of all time.....Lobbed 1-1's??? Ease of dribbling......EASY CUT-BACKS........scores of 12-7 in 10 min games being regular amongst those who knew how to exploit this uber-lame game. PES6 was also terrible as a result of the excessive AI...

If u play FIFA on 360..... And Any version of PES2008 You will be left in no doubt about which is the Arcade game and which is the simulation.... Their are a lot of great Elements in Next Gen FIFA 08....player movement, the complexity of the outfield play...the fact that the only way to...

I have been playing ProEv since day one and familiar with Konami's habit of adding features and then taking them away again (Remember the throw ins in PES3.....weren't they a huge improvement over every throw in systme since.......SO WHERE ARE THEY??). Yes, I have figured out that by pulling...

Yup... That is how Teamvision works......it lets you play for a bit...then clamps down on all options forcing you do try the unsual approach....(pretty difficult at times given the only reliable way of moving the ball about is short passes to feet) or switch your formation...

Agreed....But why vastly improve the editing options in one game....only to take them away again in the following release........the editing is not something that I would really ever use but i know some guys that fucking love all that and will spend hours creating the SPL from scratch........not...

I have purchased ProEv every year for 6 years...sometimes buying two copies...(one for PC, one for PS2) Despite 'Next Gen' PES being far from a great leap from PES6 (PC, PS2), I was fully planning on forking out for the PC version....However, in addition to all the same gameplay limitations and...

For things like that....I am 110% with you. But the neglect of all those little things to me is indicative of Konami's arrogance about the series. Seabass is on record as saying he believes the game engine is PERFECT. It is far from fucking perfect but so long as the rave reviews and the...

Just download a bootleg copy... If they aint gonna bother their arse developing the game why should the consumer pay £30 time and time again for the exact same game with a few mods and gameplay tweaks? Bootleg Multiplayer will be an option also using Hamachi. PES2008 is still gonna be the...

Dont matter how petty the details are that Konami have decided to leave out... It is a pretty arrogant show from them to give the game 70% of their efforts and still sit back and watch the hit reviews and the sales records come flooding back in... Seabass seems to think the game engine is...

Plan Of Action: Download PES2008 of Newsgroups 3-4 days before it is available to purchase in the shops. If a few unforgiveable flaws (shooting physics) that are present in the demo are still in the full release, then come October 25th, business as usuall...maybe a couple of games of bootleg...

1) Yup....No arguments....The Keepers are totally unrealistic as usual...Stop the shots that should go be goals but miss the the ones that shouldnt 2) The Game is a bit to fast....but this may be as a result of your monitor being set above 60Hz.....(Konami tend to make minimal efforts for...