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But for us who don't have the opportunity to patch games, the editing mode will have to be awesome. But then again, did they announce the liscensed clubs when the announced PES4 or was it after a few months of news?

I really don't understand why people are being so critical of the PSP, to say it has the power of the PS1 is rubbish, you only have to look at most of the screens of games to compare them to scratchy PS2 graphics. So obviously something that can produce graphics as good as it does, most be a bit...

Yeah, cos that Rangers away kit is the old one, the new one has a blue and red sash on a white body.

I find the goalies stand about a bit too much and watch the ball in to the net. I'm a big editor of the game, fine it annoying to play without proper kits, so it's frustrating that there are no striped kits, that's really annoying. With striped kits, more stadiums and better goalie AI, it would...

I really couldn't describe how I get good shoots in PES4, i've scored some crackers from distance but I don't think about it when I do it, anyone else feel this way?

Yup, was 2-0 down to England, World Cup Final as Brazil, 90th minute Ronaldinho headers into an empty net for a sure consolation and nothing more, after a superb lofted cross from Amoroso over the keeper. Kick off from England, poor pass from Heskey is intercepted by Amoroso, 35 yards out I...

Player models look shit in Fifa, all deformed, PES4 models look spot on, looks a far better game visually if you ask me.

I've always used the radar, I find it hard to play without it, gives my mates no excuses to turn it off cos it's a distraction!

I seem to have noticed from Videos, the keepers 9 videos out of 10 seem to just stand there, or from a few high shots i've seen, they run under the ball, then run back and it goes over them. The keepers were sucky in PES3, but they seem to be worse in 4.

http://i.domaindlx.com/sethane/01010016.JPG If you take the top left strip, make the red bits white for example and using sponsor editor, make blakc verticle lines in line with the existing lines?

http://i.domaindlx.com/sethane/01010018.JPG 3rd row, last shirt. Use the sponsor editor to make 2 more stripes, you have a perfect top!

They said in their review that English teams will have real names? That's interesting, though, i'm guessing this review was written a while back, I think it's too close to the release date now to make it possible?

Exactly my friend, I don't understand why Celtic Park is a must, it's a shithole! I think Hampden, Millenium Stadium, Vintage Wembley would be a nice unlockable, all the stadiums from Euro 2004 and a few from the upcomming 2006 world cup in Germany. I'm guessing by the time we reach PES3 and...

I ordered one of these, but it was left outside my house in Florida which was hit by Hurricaine Charley, so someone has my slide card :(

I'm guessing it only happens for liscensed sides though, so no Rangers vs Celi'c?

From what i've heard, PES will be better, with the slowdowns gone, updates and the shooting fixed, I think we have a near perfect game. It seems the biggest problem with both are the lack of striped shirts, which is an awfully stupid mistake, but with the gameplay being the most important thing...

Em, was either here or evo-web, can't remember which.

I thought that striped shirts were hidden in the depths of WE8 but a coding error stopped them from showing? Surly this means a simple gameshark code can fix any troubles should it sitll be the case with PES4. And the point of making stripes in the sponsor editor fixes any troubles, so what is...

Plan mate :cool: Problem solved

Darth Bulbous, please tell me you're not from Glasgow, or for that matter, the United Kingdom, your grammar is shocking, I can hardly understand any of your posts. Btw, capitals aren't a necessity at the start of every word. Anyways, I can't stand having fake names and fake strips, I edit...