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Don't look at this negatively, look on the bright side. The fact that a player's overall stat doesn't make him what he is means you can find some real bargain players, which is especially useful in MLO. I've built my MLO team all by finding players who's stats are better suited for a position...

This reminds me of the way toddlers reacte to new food. Spoon goes into mouth... "Hey this isn't pudding!" "Yeck! Wahhh!!!" **Spit, spit** "DISGUSTING!" When you're an adult you learn to appreciate the finer things in life. PES is like Spinach.

I think you mean ML, not MLO. He's asking about MLO, which is different because players don't develop.

I don't have a gamestop here (Saskatoon, Can). Will just have to wait for Tuesday, but I'll take a cruise around town today to see if anyone happens to have it. Sometimes you find a small shop or rental outlet that puts it out early...

I've been looking around, but looks like Tuesday at the earliest. Fingers crossed no delays...

Ha ha! Finally!

No, my bad. Shouldn't have wasted my time on this thread in the first place obviously. And for the record I did take your comment with a pinch of salt, and maturity has nothing to do with it (do you even understand what maturity means?). I was just shocked that you thought it was acceptable...

:no: The more you say Gun Runner the more it puts your opinions into context for me. I was interested in reading what someone so negative about this year's PES had to say, so I read through this thread, but actually even after the first post of yours it was clear to me you never gave the...

My point is that whether it's 360, or 180, or whatever, what we got with Fifa 10 and PES 2010 was new. No conspiracies here IMO ;)

I have to disagree with this. The kind of 360 movement introduced in PES 2010 and Fifa 10 is unlike anything that has been in a soccer game previously. Yes, there were games in the past where you could skate around anywhere you want, but the difference is that in this new type of 360...

Ok, but I'm not saying anything about being won over by the gameplay or anything, just animations.

Of course they can. Easy. I think what's funny is that those who still doubt the video is in-game are going to be the ones who have to: A.) Eat their words when they see more gameplay footage. and, B.) Admit that the movement in the game blows their socks off, because they didn't...

But what does "gameplay" mean to you?

I have heard it might be later this week, but still might be today. We will have to be patient...

Tops for me, but I've appreciated everyone they've ever made, so maybe I'm just easy to please ;)

I for one totally agree with this post. It's like in anything really... You have to look at the positives and take the negatives for what they are, point out areas for improvement, but do it constructively.

Ah. Well, I am canadian, eh. So that explains it. Anyway, sorry for being a douche. You have some good little points, and I totally agree that every little, er, helps. I just wish that we all put things positively as opposed to expecting that these little things would be perfect...

Three words describing why PES 09 was worse than PES 10 "90 degree turns" What a joke. PES 2010 is much better in terms of AI as well, and the "360" degree movement adds a lot to BAL. ML is much better (I would prefer PES 2010 for that alone). Graphics, skills, variety of goals, and...

It's better, but way way way too many one on ones for my liking. It's seems like it's made for noobs. Anyway, the final game will have a higher difficulty setting, so that might be better.

OK. Your pun was totally lost on me, anyway. What's Tesco? And I wasn't saying these little problems in the game are caused by you, I meant that you made a similar little error in the title of your post - or so I thought. Anyway, my point, is that I think we as a community need to put...