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If it's online, and you both have the scripting then there's no cheating involved, unless somehow the cpu knows you are doing well and scripts against your favour. If that's what you're suggesting, I, for one, don't buy it. I don't buy what others say about cheating, scripting, etc...

Good call Dale. I couldn't agree more. I keep thinking there is new info, but every time I check this thread it's just more of the same. Wastes my time, really. We are obviously not capable of having a real news thread on this site. There hasn't been much news lately though, to be fair...

^Great to see the review Honda. We've apparently all been too busy complaining about PES 09 to notice there's a new version to try out :lol: Personally, I'm still enjoying PES 09 on the 360, but I will definitely have to go grab me a copy for the wii after reading that review, and borrow a...

Carrying Team Canada into the Semi finals of the World Cup. Impossible in real life, and we almost made it further but for some chances I missed. Heartbreaking, but I carried the team on my back to get that far.

200 is a lot of extra people though, don't you think?

Top Player is where it's at. Other than that I have no opinion.

What do people think the extra 200 people are working on? I think it must be something that any designer can do - i.e. animations and graphics. Could this hint, however, at anything else? Perhaps lower division teams are being added, which would be great for BAL, and ML too. Reserve leagues...

I think the problem is that the good strikers (approx 86 average) are too good. I've been playing BAL ever since I got the game, and now just started ML on Top Player. It was challenging at first, but I managed to sign Darren Bent on a free, and now my ML has turned into the Darren Bent...

And the fans chant, "Eboooooooue!"

Well... Seems to me like we're definitely unable to keep this thread on the subject of new rumours and news. Point taken.

You're probably right there :D, but I'd like to see a latest news section on this site or something like it - somewhere to discuss the latest rumours as they pour in. Don't really care though, just a suggestion. As for whether these romours will really materialize... Well, geez, nobody...

You could add to that the hint that it will have 360 degree movement. It wasn't an "official" rumour, but something hinted at by a guy with good connections (Caniggia). Since everything is just rumours, and all rumours are pretty much equal, I'd put that one on the list. BTW - I like the...

That sounds more likely. It can't be retired regens in my opinion, because even if they retired at 24, for some strange reason, they would have to start at age 17 again, so how could they get to be 27 so fast? How else would it work? They retire at 24, stay out of the game for a few years...

I agree. Also, it seems possible, as strange as it may sound, that the ratings are based partially on your player's stats. It could be a coincidence, but it seems to me that a player with a 90 average who plays the same as a player with a 70 average for stats is going to get the better...

Yep. It should be called the Rivelino... I don't know how to do it in PES 09, yet, but it should be in the command list in-game. I seem to remember that on the PS2 it was simply a matter of double tapping R2 with the right player and it seemed to happen, but I think they have a new command fo...

^good summary. I'd be interested to hear from someone who disagrees, if anyone does...?

To clarify - I double checked and the other attribute that affects the roulette in PES6 is Agility, not dribble speed. Now, it seems clear to me that the real problem with the moves, including the roulette, in 09 is that every player does them when it comes to some moves, but not many can...

Again, though, I could ask what team you're using for these cups and Champions League games. I would be interested to know, but it also depends on how you play the game i.e. are you deliberately trying to cheat the helpless AI with moves you know are effective, or are you trying to win with...

Be more specific. BAL, ML, and after how many seasons? I think it would be difficult to say either mode is too easy in the first 1-2 seasons with the weaker side or player. After a number of seaons though, if you stack your team, then I think they game always gets too easy.

I checked my PES 6 piggyback guide. For PES 6, the roulette is, according to them, determined by Technique, Dribble Accuracy and Dribble Speed. It seems to have changed for 09. It used to be that if a player's technique wasn't high enough that if he tried it he would flub the ball. That's...