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I stopped being a fanboy years ago, FIFA just feels like a pointless game to me now, I knew it would happen at some point. Will be interested to see what 12 offers but I think EA have run out of ideas and will focus on the online market even more. This is not PES V FIFA to me anymore and having...

Good points, although I love the game I agree with most of this. I don't mind the keepers unless they do something totally illogical like you mentioned, I like the degree of error with GK's on PES. Agree with the scripting in regards to AI but not shooting although more user input would be nice

I played fifa 11 for 2 weeks then pes for the last 2, I much prefer pes although I recommend buying both as fifa is a decent game. PES takes a while to see its true greatness wheres I found fifa impressed me for the first week then started to get boring. Oh yeh like sminky pinky just mentioned...

Won't mention all but some From my point of view.... - Manual passing is superb - Default pass is better than last year and takes a bit more skill - The shooting is more realistic, takes ages to get used to but you have to take elements such as body position, how much pressure you are under...

Not one to berate fifa but it has so many fundamentals wrong(especially offline) and according to OPM it has a perfect CM:shocking:, here is what fifa has so wrong, by the way for any fifa trolls lurking I have played fifa for the past three years to death - Every player has an almost identical...

After making this thread the cpu got a really soft sending off which a bit hypocritically delighted me as I went on to beat the 10 men of ajax 4-0. Forget what I said about the refs they are perfect:ninja:. In all seriousness the refs have to be more consistent next year, no point having a...

Although the ps2 games were more polished and had less illogical flaws than pes 2011, I just feel 11 has that special feeling(sorry for a typical pes cliche) that PES hasn't had on NG. I know members such as Amateur are understandably annoyed that the game still sits on the same premise as back...

Yeh thats another one, the AI is incapable of getting sent off now in pes. This is what irritates me, if i do the same the ref is desperate to show me a card.

I like the way arrows take home and away into consideration, at the same time it does not work both ways. I played a shit team at home who were fighting relegation and most of their players were on top form. Stamina seems to effect you much more than the comp, maybe it would be to easy though if...

Anyone else noticed the refs on top player and how they are seemingly coded to give certain decisions to the AI, after last years debacle with the refs I am surprised Konami have the audacity to include refs that favour the AI. I am not saying the ref doesn't make the right decision with regards...

I'm 22 years old and have been close to tears mate:shocking:, its so naive when people say "get better at the game" they fail to realise that its not a complaint about the difficulty but a complaint about the realism and balance off the game. I can win the league and still feel like I have been...

Anyone else giving manual passing a go? starting to get used to it now it really opens up the game and its still affected by stats. I still find the default pass abit limited although its good for certain situations. It feels a bit unnatural having to press the shoulder button at first but you...

The scripting offline is hideous sometimes, I only play offline so one pad has already disintegrated. No game gives me rage like pes 2011, have you also noticed the refs that play for the AI?

Well said mate, they will clock on eventually even if they don't admit it. Although I do think fifa 11 is a good game after playing pes it just seems so wrong to play fifa, this comes from someone who has slated pes for the last few years and loved fifa. I played fifa all manual and it really...

I just hope konami try to implement as much feedback as possible, I find the whole "we need new blood" argument rather naive. Konami need to realise they don't always know best. However I respect KONAM'S fuck you attitide more than EA's cop out attitude that tries to please everybody with...

If your an offline gamer like me and loved last gen pes, YOU HAVE to buy this game. Give it time though, at first I was like what the fuck is this and now I am a proud PES fan again:dancer:

Seabass and his team do things that I can't understand and infuriate me, at the same time I think they know how to take the game forward. PES 2011 is far from perfect, but for me it is the best footall game ever made with pes 5 and then fifa 11 fairly close behind.

I find FIFA easier than pes as the manual passing on fifa seems assisted, the manual passing was perfect in fifa 2008,09 and 10. I feel I have mastered fifa(offline) whereas PES offers me something different every game. I have played fifa non stop for the past three years but I cant see me ever...

PES 2011 is the clear winner for me although I could see the potential in pes 2010 and knew that konami were going in the right direction. the reasons why PES 2011 pisses over pes 10 from a pretty decent height imo... - Manual passing is much better in pes 11, you didn't even have to think...

When playing on XBOX i have switched sprint to RT, close control happens when I use RB, check your command list in game to confirm. Pretty sure its RB for xbox no matter what configuration you have.