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its a forum things are meant to be discussed, dont use the pathetic go and play real football argument.The more a game can accurately simulate football the better and that's my preference. "move on" fuck off mate. I'll talk about what i want who are you

i just want to see changes to the gameplay, i couldn't give a shit about BAL, or online play, if this happens i might be tempted back from fifa but there is a lot of catching up to do in terms of the gameplay, i think konami can pull it back over the next few years.

you get to do both therefore you are controlling the player rather than solely relying on his stats(which isn't always the case in pes to be fair). Scoring is a skill and that should be replicated, this isnt done in pes and is one of the reasons you can crack the game's difficulty after a couple...

superb, "get ere bitch". I would have loved someone to walk in when i was wacthing that. i just watched the victor valdes replay one of the funniest things i have seen as sad as it sounds, its his face.

it allows you to shape your shot with the foot rather than just press one button, yes footballers act on instinct but shooting requires depth and skill. This was much the case with the earlier incarnations of the game where it took actual skill to score, as in real life. Fifa excels for me in...

as amateur said the priority needs to be with the gameplay. It doesn't matter how many game modes there if the gameplay isn't right the game wont last. i am grateful that konami have provided me with joy from when i was able to pick up a bad. I am not going to play konami's game because i feel...

do you not understand that fifa basically is what pro should have been to some extent. EA have copied ideas of konami for the past few years but have refined it to an almost perfect football simulation. But fair enough this is an ideas thread so i will give a few before i get bored and bitter...

go and play fifa 09 or pes ps2. also if you actually read other threads you might hear some of my many suggestions

i am honestly sick of talking about how pes could improve i would rather just play the superb fifa 09 where its obvious huge amounts of effort have gone into the gameplay. It really is simple, konami know how to make a good football sim but they have sold out and decided to make the game appeal...

have you tried manual shooting on fifa, the variety of ways you can score is infinite and this is backed up by every positive review fifa has recieved . i find scoring on pro to easy at times but there are still a variety of goals as unrewarding as they are most of the time. And of course this...

i need to get online and teach you all some manual luvin. Is there anyway to create manual lobbies and leagues, this would be something that would force me to go online. At the moment my xbox has no hard drive so i can still play games but i cant go online.

my biggest gripes are with the gameplay and returning pes to the brilliant sim it once was, luckily fifa covers most of these problems so am i excited by what both games will offer next year. Hasn't the site already sent some sort of petition to konami regarding this, i am sure someone met with...

i stopped playing pes a few months ago but try using only manual with the analogue , this adds a bit more depth to the game.

they fucking need to but i doubt it . Forums are basically one huge source for audinece feedback so it would be a shame if developers didn't.

every part of it, this is also the case with passing and for me this is why i play the game.

pes 5 ps2 was the last great pes game, have you not tried fifa manually?

the manual passing on fifa allows you to choose youre style of play as you would in football and for me this was the case with pes 1-5. The manual passing on pes 09 allows you to do this but not to the same depth so for me every game is the same to some extent. The default passing on pes with...

this is the second fifa game i have owned i just feel that fifa feels more like pes on the ps1 and 2 than pes 09 does. I respect opinions but i dont understand what youre basing it on unless you prefer a slightly more arcade style of football. I have been more of a fanboy than most regarding the...

people ignore this argument about the style of gameplay and will swear blind that pes is better even though they know it isn't.

try using the finesse shot more, manual shooting is extremely hard but there are infinite ways you can strike the ball as i am sure you are aware. I find the manual shooting so rewarding and scoring a goal should be. I still panic like a bitch and miss most one on ones against the computer but i...