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exactly. The manual controls in fifa make you feel like you are actually kicking a ball. Both game have a problem with scripting though. Fifa 09 is what i imagined pes would be years ago when it went next gen. If you play fifa with manual controls on legendary it is by far the most challenging...

on pes 4 in maldini's last game before he retired on the master league i scored two goals with him it was unbelievable.

no. the gameplay is nowhere near a simulation but if you lot prefer arcade games then i am sure you a raping it. I have been playing fifa 09 360 and pes 2009 on ps2, the best football games ever made.

the more you like pes on ps2 when it was a true football simulation you will love this game. You play fifa like it is a real football match

the variety of football you can play with manual on fifa is astounding at times. I am doing a career with everton on legendary at the moment , riveting stuff. I need to get online so i can play some of you guys

I have read you posts to an extent mr darkstar but it got quite boring and predicatable but it says lot that you turned from fifa to pro at pes 6. Pes was at its height from iss evo 1(ps1) up until the first next gen game when the series has gone downhill gameplay wise. That is why i stated...

the more you love the pes series the more you will want to play fifa, nobody can say that this years gameplay is as realistic as fifa . Sounds strange but if you are a pro fan fifa is the game for you as much i feel sick and dirty saying it. If you want a semi arcade plug and play football game...

exactly, i was in denial and then realised its about playing the best football sim. Fifa's gameplay reminds me of what makes pes so great and the buzz of playing a new pes. The test is weather i will be playing it in 4 months.

finally got the game working after downloading microsoft sdk as my graphics card is shit. 6th with Palermo after 19 games. Razvan ochirossi is some player

football manager 2009 after three days and numerous downloads. Fifa 2009 and halo 3

iss ps1. i also remember how good it was the first time the master league was introduced on iss evo 1.

same here. I love the fact that one on one goals are a challenge makes the game so rewarding but i seem to panic like a little bitch when in this situation

pes 2008 was the worst game ever made so you cant back up any point by praising that, if you liked the game i respect your opinion but i dont even class it as part of the series it was so poor . This years game has gone back to some of the conventions of the ps2 game that was so brilliant but it...

i use only manual and the game is beautiful. You are in control of everything and shooting and passing is so rewarding. For me there is only one way to play this game and that is manual.

if you read my positive comments about pes 09 you will no this is hard for me to say but this weekend i couldnt ignore fifa anymore and bought it. If you are a true pro fan and have played the game all your life then you are more likely to buy fifa 09 as it is a true brilliant football...

look at all of my past post and i have praised the hell out of pes 09. This week however i bought fifa 09 as the superb reviews it has received cant be ignored. PES IS NOT A TRUE FOOTBALL SIMULATION. it is a great game but it lacks the depth in terms of gameplay and it still feels to arcadey as...

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Amauri holds the ball up well and is lethal.

In terms of gameplay where the battle will be won next year it will be tough for fifa to improve on what is has done this year , i am still playing pro this year and enjoying it thoroughly. Konami have made the best football game by an alarming distance up until the first game on the xbox a few...

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