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if something such as goalie gloves wreck a game then a game should not be released in the first place

no its not the end but i am concerned with the way the game is moving to a more arcadey style but i am confident 09 will bring the pes series back to life. 2008 went against everything that pro was about and this has to be put right

the ability to unstuck shirts would be good as it makes the player models look more realistic.

i would expect to have the game by the 16th, if anyone does get it early use this thread to tell people

the ball physics look wonderful and the passing seems to be improved even though it has a tinge of last years game about it.

4 new stadiums isn't enough

bring back james and brookers, does anyone remember this peach from james "the clouds are moving and the sun is peeping mischievously through the clouds":fplm:

every year the game is released early so hopefully this will be the case this year. pes 3 was released a week early.

i hope there are more realistic transfers in the game.

lawro's voice makes me heave

there are 19 stadiums in the game you can see on one of the videos.

first game has to be man united at the new wembley. i will then try the other new stadiums

the shooting in last years game was a disgrace and far to easy to master so something had to change but ive not played the demo so cant comment that much

this was the overriding disappointing factor with pes 2008 and i hope pes 09 is the sim it should be. I want to be frustrated and struggle to win.

it is disappointing that the fake stadiums couldn't be replaced with these two grounds. There are some nice stadiums on this years game but there could be more diversity.

Sounds cliche but i dont think it matters what fifa does as long as pes is back to its best which i am sure it will be. Fifa is a decent football game but i can only consistently play pro and always have done. I havent bought fifa this year.

don't do that to me again

whenever pro is released the word ritual comes to mind. I get up early and plan how i am going to play the game and what i am going to edit. the day runs like clockwork

thats brilliant that you wrote down the lyrics, its disgusting when pes songs get stuck in your head but it cant be helped .

Less than two weeks to go now and the other day a miracle happened. Whilst playing football i badly tore my knee ligaments which means i have at least 2 months to play the new pro which makes me feel aroused. I had booked the day of work anyway but this is just to much. Knees fucked though...