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Pes 2009 , best ever soccer game ever on earth !

Some Guy....

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http://dictionary.reference.com/dic?q=looser&search=search here it states what it is, it comes from the word loose

It's obvious that it's "enhance GFX", doesn't take a high IQ.

Wow... can't he just type what it's actually meant to be instead of typing some toss like that then...

Or maybe I can do the same thing.

dodiuafknmerinucntfk!

Anyhow, Looser isn't a noun... So I don't see how he can call me one...

Actually, bingo... It's an eBay term apparently for someone who doesn't reply to emails... Not sure how that applies to me or PES though.

I also don't understand how looking in the Mirror could ever allow me to see that I am a person who doesn't reply to emails... Could you explain this in more detail to me, because it seems to be like your inane enjoyment that you get from this disgrace to the PES name (well demo of), I just can't understand it...
 

ibra87

Registered User
Wow... can't he just type what it's actually meant to be instead of typing some toss like that then...

Or maybe I can do the same thing.

dodiuafknmerinucntfk!

Anyhow, Looser isn't a noun... So I don't see how he can call me one...

Actually, bingo... It's an eBay term apparently for someone who doesn't reply to emails... Not sure how that applies to me or PES though.

I also don't understand how looking in the Mirror could ever allow me to see that I am a person who doesn't reply to emails... Could you explain this in more detail to me, because it seems to be like your inane enjoyment that you get from this disgrace to the PES name (well demo of), I just can't understand it...

Loser (dictionary.com) "Someone or something that is marked by consistently or thoroughly bad quality"

That's how you are a loser... You're never going to enjoy any football game if

1. You're playing exhibitions with computers
2. You don't appreciate the game

oh and I'd like to see a 7-0 score in the 5 min matches against computer. If it's just claiming, then I won 20-0 in the Fifa demo against the computer.

Fifa vs Pes pics: http://www.pcaction.de/?menu=browse...id=662144&entity_id=-1&image_id=912964&page=2

I like how Van Der Sar is flat out drunk.. or maybe it's just that he's got a cold?
 

Some Guy....

Registered User
Loser (dictionary.com) "Someone or something that is marked by consistently or thoroughly bad quality"

That's how you are a loser... You're never going to enjoy any football game if

1. You're playing exhibitions with computers
2. You don't appreciate the game

oh and I'd like to see a 7-0 score in the 5 min matches against computer. If it's just claiming, then I won 20-0 in the Fifa demo against the computer.

Fifa vs Pes pics: http://www.pcaction.de/?menu=browse...id=662144&entity_id=-1&image_id=912964&page=2

I like how Van Der Sar is flat out drunk.. or maybe it's just that he's got a cold?

He said "looser" not "loser"...

PES 2009's demo is terrible in almost every concievable way, and I doubt playing in a cup would make any difference to the gameplay.

PC FIFA 08 and I'd guess 09 suck balls too, wouldn't touch either with a 40' pole.

Only on the PS3 and Xbox 360 is it really FIFA 09 which by the way I'm loving. Play in the FA cup right now as Derby, in the 5th round against Reading, and I'll show them who's the best of the Championship!

It was also 5-0... Lionel Messi rapes the defenders... mainly because they don't know how to close down.
 

Some Guy....

Registered User
I'm looking through those pictures, and actually even on the PC, FIFA 09's graphics kick the shit out of PES 2009... What the fuck Konami!

Some on both sides look a bit off, but FIFA's are overall better.
 

shaun7

Registered User
^Graphics? Admit anything good about pes you idiot. I'm sorrry you have to be. Take a look at the player comparison shots between fifa 09 and pes 09. Pes 09 is clearly the winner by miles, though fifa has better stadiums. You see, I stil admit that fifa has better stadiums, you're not admitting because fanboyism is blocking your eyes.
Because it's still far far worse than PES 6 and is in fact worse than FIFAs 08 and 09! That's why people are complaining, because Konami failed!

And you're by far a fifa fanboy. Play pes 09 well and see that it's even better than pes 6. I compared the 2. Obviously with videos, and pes 09 feels much better.
 

Some Guy....

Registered User
I've played the PES 2009 demo and it was as bad if not worse than PES 2008...

Also, how the fuck am I a FIFA fanboy, I didn't even bother buying FIFA 07 and the only reason I bought 2004-06 was because of the Rams! I still believe that PES 5 and 6 were two of the very best and yet you're calling me a FIFA fanboy, what the fuck is wrong with you mate, are you so fucking blinded by this fanboy culture on this site that you can't see that we've all be handed a pile of shit in this new PES?
 

shaun7

Registered User
@some guy Did you even read my post? No I guess not. I'm not the fanboy here. I admitted that fifa has better stadiums, yet you, for some reason, can't admit that pes 09 demo is very good.
 

Some Guy....

Registered User
@some guy Did you even read my post? No I guess not. I'm not the fanboy here. I admitted that fifa has better stadiums, yet you, for some reason, can't admit that pes 09 demo is very good.

Uh... The PES demo is shit, and that's what I've been complaining about. I also did read what you wrote, and wow... You managed to admit that the stadiums in FIFA 09 are better... You can't be a fanboy!

Either that or maybe the fact of the matter is that the only thing in PES that is half decent this year is a few faces, but as I've said apart from that the rest is a disgrace!
 

shaun7

Registered User
I was never a fonby. I admit the truth. The truth is that fifa always had better stadiums, while pes always had better player models and faces.
 

DM86

Registered User
Trust me, the Fifa demo can be different, because it is.

It's an amazing game, and miles better than the PES 2009 demo in my opinion. Now obviously, I'll still buy PES 2009 in the hope that their full game will be streets ahead of the demo, like Fifa's.


Is it realy likely that the finished version will be alot different to the DEMO?
 

Some Guy....

Registered User
I was never a fonby. I admit the truth. The truth is that fifa always had better stadiums, while pes always had better player models and faces.

You admit the truth and yet you can't see the countless problems that make the new PES demo one of the worst football games I've ever played?

Is it realy likely that the finished version will be alot different to the DEMO?

FIFA 09, the actual game is far better than I thought it would be, it seriously blows the PES 2009 demo out of the water.
 

cartoon

Registered User
You admit the truth and yet you can't see the countless problems that make the new PES demo one of the worst football games I've ever played?



FIFA 09, the actual game is far better than I thought it would be, it seriously blows the PES 2009 demo out of the water.

We will see by 2 wks times .I just want to tell you that do not make conclusion too early.

The battle is going to blow up soon .
 

Some Guy....

Registered User
I must agree with that, FIFA 09's demo was no where near as good as the final product, but I just can't see the final version being that much better for PES 2009, but as you said, we'll see.
 

DM86

Registered User
FIFA 09, the actual game is far better than I thought it would be, it seriously blows the PES 2009 demo out of the water.[/QUOTE]


You'd expect the final version of a game to be beter than a demo tho surely?

Or do you mean the final version of FIFA09 is better than what the PES2009 final version is gonna be.
 

Some Guy....

Registered User
FIFA 09, the actual game is far better than I thought it would be, it seriously blows the PES 2009 demo out of the water.


You'd expect the final version of a game to be beter than a demo tho surely?

Or do you mean the final version of FIFA09 is better than what the PES2009 final version is gonna be.[/QUOTE]

No, what I mean is that the FIFA 09 demo wasn't as good as the final product, but the flaws in PES 2009 (which by itself is far worse than the FIFA 09 demo) would not be able to be rectified before the release. The very most basic things are just plain wrong. Things as simple as the way the players run and turn, the passing of the ball... Maybe the AI might be tweaked a tad for the closing down issues and such, but I doubt that they would rebuild the ball physics before the release and so I can only see this as a complete failure.
 

DM86

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You'd expect the final version of a game to be beter than a demo tho surely?

Or do you mean the final version of FIFA09 is better than what the PES2009 final version is gonna be.

No, what I mean is that the FIFA 09 demo wasn't as good as the final product, but the flaws in PES 2009 (which by itself is far worse than the FIFA 09 demo) would not be able to be rectified before the release. The very most basic things are just plain wrong. Things as simple as the way the players run and turn, the passing of the ball... Maybe the AI might be tweaked a tad for the closing down issues and such, but I doubt that they would rebuild the ball physics before the release and so I can only see this as a complete failure.[/QUOTE]


Wel that makes a change for Konami.

Their gettin pretty good at failing lately.
 

DM86

Registered User
They won't mate... Konami always rely on their rep to get them through, rather than actually putting effort into improvements.
 
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