PS3= Wate of time and effort

[Ko_nami]

Well, the Xbox isn't a god-like machine either:

http://www.llamma.com/xbox/Repairs/xbox_dvd_repair.htm

For arguments sake, I've had similar problems with other types of drives as well.

For example, my 10 year old Pioneer Car CD Player refused to read CDs after about 4 years of constant use. A normal CD Lens Cleaner didn't do the trick. It only started working again after I opened the drive up, physically cleaned the lens and made some adjustments here and there.

So I'm sorry, but I can't agree with some of the comments posted here that Sony have intentionally manufactured a shoddy product. :no:

I know for a fact that CD & DVD Lenses can go on the blink after a few years of constant use. It doesn't matter what kind of product it is, it doesn't matter who manufactured it, it doesn't matter where you bought it from; CD & DVD Lenses can become faulty.

Companies can carry out as much quality control as they like but they're never going to identify major lens problems because they don't 'test' the drive as rigorously as we, the consumers do.

 

[jamez]

Someone said the PS3 will be worth buying because of Gran Turismo?

I had to laugh. If you like a game that has some of the worst AI in any racing game and questionable car physics just beacuse it looks pretty be my guest. Theres no reason to think the PS3 release will be any different to what we've seen before. Its a graphics whore's racing game.

 

[Diao]

Why don't we make our opinions of the PS3 when it has come out and people have actually played on it?

 

[CRISSGRAN]

The PS3 is already out, and much cheaper in US and Japan. So far the launch games have been called, alright but not great. Still they have a lot of potential. With Gears of War out for Xbox 360 tho.. PS3 will really need a shooter which is a hundred times better than Resistance.

 

[talaash76]

You are wrong mate,

The only difference between HD-DVD and Blu-ray is that HD-DVD at moment can only support up to 1080i whereas Blu-ray goes a little better at 1080p. THe other difference is PRICE. Blu-ray will cost around $1000 for teh standalone drive and HD-DVD around $399. So which would you choose? Oh and HD-DVD will be able to do 1080p in the near future. In terms of capacity HD-DVD is NOT just like DVD disc. They are currently working on a 50gig version.

I am no fortune teller but in terms of economics, HD-DVD will win by a long way. Consumers are not as naive as Sony believes them to be. I have most things at my place SOny, so I am not saying they are bad, but they are counting on that brand name and their monopoly of media to make them eventual winners. BUT cost is what matters as well and they are seemingly forgeting that all of a sudden.

If you want any of this information confirmed please go to following link:

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-8900_7-5600201-1.html
(older)

http://www.cnet.com.au/dvdpvr/0,239035801,240091380,00.htm (More recent)

As for xbox versus PS2 comment. Xbox has better graphics and better frame rates, there are many sites to tell you this. ANd the same will be true when it comes to PS3 vs Xbox 360.

If you want to see what Xbox 360 can do go and play gears of war.

very good arguements here deffiantly everyone is rite in there opinions, but sony will never flop to many people know of the playstation i dont no how many countless people ive met who say o i cant get them off the playstation when it turns out its an xbox or a gamcube the truth is most of the gamers have a ps2 n most likely will get the ps3 because its well known.

will the blu-ray flop well most likely, only ones gonna survive out of blu ray and hd dvd, but i dont think anyone should jump at the point because do you really know the difference between them both, well let me explain, the qaulity of the 2 are pretty much the same blu-ray is slightly better in quality by using the tv to new potential and of course there going to be used for the games on the ps3 y is this good well a blu-ray can hold up to ten times as much as a dvd can and the hd-dvd is just a dvd with hd-software built onto it, so the clear winner is blu-ray on paper but of course we all know by watching soccer, baseball, or football that it don't mean nothing, it looks like hd-dvd will win because of its name hd-dvd very familiar and not alot of people want to try somthing new until it's been reconised, and dvd was reconised over beta max, i bet you asked people and not many people no wot a beta max is. so there u have it hd has been reconised, dvd has been reconised whos gonna go buy a blu ray wen theres already one out but will wait and see.

i do believe ps3 is so much better, i have a 360 and the frame rate on that isn't that good, fifa still has its problems and even in pro evo the crowd still isn't full and that has its frame rate problem with a few other games to, the ps3 on the other hand will have the blu-ray disc which will be able to hold the info and with the cell chip it will be able to show it properly, i'm a hardcore gamer, i like to know my consoles before release, i kno both inside and out and 360 is out dated now, it's been out a year now so that graphics card is a year old, ps3's is a specialised card not even out yet and is the greatest graphics card out to date and with the cell chip it will be unstoppable aslong as the programmers can work with it and get it rite, so yet again pro evo will be the victor on ps3 over 360.

 

[john4]

Well, the Xbox isn't a god-like machine either:

http://www.llamma.com/xbox/Repairs/xbox_dvd_repair.htm

For arguments sake, I've had similar problems with other types of drives as well.

For example, my 10 year old Pioneer Car CD Player refused to read CDs after about 4 years of constant use. A normal CD Lens Cleaner didn't do the trick. It only started working again after I opened the drive up, physically cleaned the lens and made some adjustments here and there.

So I'm sorry, but I can't agree with some of the comments posted here that Sony have intentionally manufactured a shoddy product. :no:

I know for a fact that CD & DVD Lenses can go on the blink after a few years of constant use. It doesn't matter what kind of product it is, it doesn't matter who manufactured it, it doesn't matter where you bought it from; CD & DVD Lenses can become faulty.

Companies can carry out as much quality control as they like but they're never going to identify major lens problems because they don't 'test' the drive as rigorously as we, the consumers do.

Someone said the PS3 will be worth buying because of Gran Turismo?

I had to laugh. If you like a game that has some of the worst AI in any racing game and questionable car physics just beacuse it looks pretty be my guest. Theres no reason to think the PS3 release will be any different to what we've seen before. Its a graphics whore's racing game.

it was well documented that sony made the lasers in there ps2s faulty,very well documented!once the warranty was over they would stop reading the purple based discs,possibly dvds and cds.they were sued and forced to repair any1s laser wether the warranty had run out or not,so long as the warranty sticker was in tack.they were trying too make money of repairs!!!google it

jamez,i sed tht but i dont play gt,i no wot u mean every ai car on the game does the exact same thing!!!!!i dont play project gotham either tho!but i no tht gt is a popular seller!

 

[jamez]

On another point, i think some people's expectation of next-gen consoles is too high. The 360 and PS3 are just scaled down top-end PCs, designed solely for gaming. Don't get suckered in by those rendered videos Sony keep showing off.

 

[cruzito]

very good arguements here deffiantly everyone is rite in there opinions, but sony will never flop to many people know of the playstation i dont no how many countless people ive met who say o i cant get them off the playstation when it turns out its an xbox or a gamcube the truth is most of the gamers have a ps2 n most likely will get the ps3 because its well known.

will the blu-ray flop well most likely, only ones gonna survive out of blu ray and hd dvd, but i dont think anyone should jump at the point because do you really know the difference between them both, well let me explain, the qaulity of the 2 are pretty much the same blu-ray is slightly better in quality by using the tv to new potential and of course there going to be used for the games on the ps3 y is this good well a blu-ray can hold up to ten times as much as a dvd can and the hd-dvd is just a dvd with hd-software built onto it, so the clear winner is blu-ray on paper but of course we all know by watching soccer, baseball, or football that it don't mean nothing, it looks like hd-dvd will win because of its name hd-dvd very familiar and not alot of people want to try somthing new until it's been reconised, and dvd was reconised over beta max, i bet you asked people and not many people no wot a beta max is. so there u have it hd has been reconised, dvd has been reconised whos gonna go buy a blu ray wen theres already one out but will wait and see.

i do believe ps3 is so much better, i have a 360 and the frame rate on that isn't that good, fifa still has its problems and even in pro evo the crowd still isn't full and that has its frame rate problem with a few other games to, the ps3 on the other hand will have the blu-ray disc which will be able to hold the info and with the cell chip it will be able to show it properly, i'm a hardcore gamer, i like to know my consoles before release, i kno both inside and out and 360 is out dated now, it's been out a year now so that graphics card is a year old, ps3's is a specialised card not even out yet and is the greatest graphics card out to date and with the cell chip it will be unstoppable aslong as the programmers can work with it and get it rite, so yet again pro evo will be the victor on ps3 over 360.

i think u got a good point mate...

 

[cruzito]

Anycase whats up with da aplle logo on da new PS3, are they planning
sumthing?

 

[Ko_nami]

Anycase whats up with da aplle logo on da new PS3, are they planning
sumthing?

What Apple logo? News to me...:unsure:

 

[primo1]

I agree to a point. The Sony organisation does not care about suppliers or even their customers. The only thing that they worry about is profit - its as simple as that.

really? ALL of these companies are all about profit, if you think otherwise your a fool.

the 360 is a rush job, just to get their system on the market b4 sony did.
if you think about it the ps3 is coming with a blu ray player, which if you look the cheapest is 1000 (pounds).
360 you will need to buy an additional HD player which if you add it all up would work out to be roughly the same as the ps3.
you also pay for xbox live where ps3s version is FREE.

 

[Huw]

really? ALL of these companies are all about profit, if you think otherwise your a fool.

I must be a fool then beacause I am sure things like Customer Satisfaction are also key to many companies. That in itself does, I agree, lead to more profit, but Sont dont seem interested in the bigger picture. Once they have sold their product they dont give a damn what happens

 

[Ko_nami]

really? ALL of these companies are all about profit, if you think otherwise your a fool.

the 360 is a rush job, just to get their system on the market b4 sony did.
if you think about it the ps3 is coming with a blu ray player, which if you look the cheapest is 1000 (pounds).
360 you will need to buy an additional HD player which if you add it all up would work out to be roughly the same price as the ps3.

Some very, very good points made here.

Some posters in this thread need to get things into perspective.

 

[Huw]

Some very, very good points made here.

Some posters in this thread need to get things into perspective.

And some need to take their blinkers off - Sony treated me and thousands of other consumers terribly. I am not saying that other companies are any better but Sony have, in the past, really let their customers down with poor after sales service

 

[S1mon]

I`ve read there will be 2,000,000 ps3 on sale on the first day in the u.k, does this seem a small number to any of you?

 

[S1mon]

On another point, i think some people's expectation of next-gen consoles is too high. The 360 and PS3 are just scaled down top-end PCs, designed solely for gaming. Don't get suckered in by those rendered videos Sony keep showing off.

actually, the xbox 360s graphics card was a heavily tweaked ati radeon xt1900xt, u could say a beta for the ati 2000 series, meaning that probably has the best graphics card around, and i wouldnt call 512mb ram(in 360) top end pc, mid range.

 

[Mick03]

really? ALL of these companies are all about profit, if you think otherwise your a fool.

generally i would have to agree with you but Microsoft lost 4 billion on the x-box, even thought they claim to have expected it, if you expected to lose money why do it?

 

[john4]

really? ALL of these companies are all about profit, if you think otherwise your a fool.

the 360 is a rush job, just to get their system on the market b4 sony did.
if you think about it the ps3 is coming with a blu ray player, which if you look the cheapest is 1000 (pounds).
360 you will need to buy an additional HD player which if you add it all up would work out to be roughly the same as the ps3.
you also pay for xbox live where ps3s version is FREE.

i dnt think that it will be free.people seem too think the ps2 is free but only certain games!too play socom you must pay per month!so that isnt entirley correct,and if the ps3 has many games where u pay per month it would cost more than xbox live!

 

[DarKesT]

A console is only a waste of time if it doesn't have games you like, PS3 is full of my favourite series and of course its very likely where Konami makes a GOOD next gen PES

So im gladly gonna buy a PS3 and have a blast with it

 

[CRISSGRAN]

I`ve read there will be 2,000,000 ps3 on sale on the first day in the u.k, does this seem a small number to any of you?

Em.. if you think thats a small amount, Japan only got 80,000 units and America got 40,000 so i'd say we are the lucky ones to get figures in the millions, don't you