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THAT.. Looks like.. the dogs proverbials.. fantastico! The way the ball moves and that - the look of it.. is a huge leap ahead I think, after a single view, admittedly.. I think that looks REALLY promising, and I too am going to find it VERY hard to wait for PES4 on the PC.. Maybe Im going to...

Christiano needs to calm down. I cant believe you get so pissed off, man.

Be happy, people, its a nice day, YOU MISERABLE TURDS! AND WE8 / PES4 ARE SHAPING UP BEAUTIFULLY!! WOOP WOOP!

Woooooooooooooooooh! New pictures! Id like some new screenshots, official ones.

And Razor - you can see in some pics that the Adidas logo is on the front of the Real Madrid Kit..

Christiano - Southampton are clearly better than portsmouth, having finished above them every year for decades, and being in the FA cup final and the UEFA cup last season. How can you not rate Beattie, who has scored over 40 in his last two seasons, or philips, playing some of his best football...

When you getr this game - is someone going to put up a list of how the Premiership teams compare to each other in terms of the ability Konami has deemed them worthy? I want to know if theyve got the abilities right, ie - Wolves should clearly be the worst team, Arsenal the best, judging on last...

Can anyone answer my query of a few pages back - is there anything being done to grab more licenses, Premiership or otherwise, before PES4 comes out.. or WE8i? I still really think its genuinely inappropriate that only one company has access to the licenses.. that's not too far away from...

West Ham have been relegated last season, not lately, so thats why theyre not in it jamesdoyle. At the end of the day, theyre not in the premiership, and the trop leagues from last year are in. So they dont deserve to be in it. If reputation alone was enough, we'd also have teams like nottingham...

I think it just seems to fit, TB. And if oyu think about it, they can surely do it unlicensed anyway? This way theyd basically have the 6 best full leagues in Europe. Bloody magnifique!

Out of interest - it does of course look very much like the Premiership will remain unlicensed this year, even for PES4. But is there anything being done, any efforts being made by Konami to secure the Premiership license and get that monopolising Fifa agreement shit overturned? If not for...

To be honest with one week to wait I couldnt be bothered to get a dodgy one.

A4, B1 or B4 could be Aston Villa.. Hmm. I hope they do, as i said, put all the teams in. Itlll be so anoying if a couple are out.

D3 looks more like the original Newcastle one. Better have Southampton in there if they have the likes of Wolves. Or Im gonna kick off. In fairness they will have, I think.. i dont think theyd leave out all teams this time. A5, B4, C4, C5, E2 could also all be Saints (my team if you dont...

Just noticed in that video - that wall is SO badly positioned! Also.. Im pretty sure they had water splashes looking similar in PES3, or am I just imagining it?

Surely it wont be too much more than River Plate and Boca Juniors? I mean.. OK, maybe a few more but in terms of profiel most aren't very high up. I know Necaxa of Mexico I think and would know a few more, but.. I would rather see complete French league as well as English, German, Spanish...

By the way, I knew what you meant.. international asian teams. But still id have thought J-league would be more of a biggie to their fanbase.

Ive considered that too Lami. Id have thought the J-league would feature in the Japanese release of WE - does it? i havent seen anything to suggest it does. Seems strange, because lets face it, we all want to play with OUR team, not just the great ones. Interesting point - I'd never, ever...

Yeah, I noticed that "maybe Porto" thing too.. They've been one of the best portugese teams around consistently in recent years!! Whereas when have Braga been mentioned in the same breath as them, Sporting Lisbon and Benfica lately? I think Skonto Riga should be in!! Heh. Nah.. But I do think...

It would be better to have a really good roar when a goal goes in or a bigger "just-missed" kind of noise.. you know.. when the crowd gets more excited around the box, and also when the team is down, and then ALMOST goes wild when someone hits the bar.. that real kind of "aawwwwwwww" you get.