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To be honest, Cristiano, I dont agree about the net. It IS a flaw, but I really dont see it as a major one. Sometimes it does work realistically enough, and also getting the net physics correct is not as easy as correcting the crowd - you know? It would be nice to see all the niggles changed...

In some ways I wish I hadn't sold my PS2 now! As it is Im going to have to wait til PES4 gets released on PC, Grr... Ah well, at least I will actually be able to affiord to get my new machine built if I'm not buying PES4.. my current one wouldn't run PES3 i think, let alone 4... Overall - I...

Not sure how easy its going to be to make some of the sponsors! I mean, Arsenals will be easy of course. Villas should be easy. P*rtsmouths should be easy nough too.. but some are just going to be approximations at best, like SOuthamptons. Still, a sponsor editor would make it pretty ace. I...

Its pretty damn hard to get a 10, I think. I think I'd only ever got a couple, despite some games where one player set up lots and scored lots and had 100% success at everything and covered the pitch well..

Jag.. no dig intended. I just saw my cursed enemies rather than Everton.. I apologise if it was nasty, but yeah. your BAD. :)

Jag87 - Surely that was not a Liverpool / Everton video? If anything it as Liverpool vs P*rtsmouth? I wanna see Southampton vs Portsmouth...

SO the general consensus is that it is quite likely to be the case that its worth, if you had to choose, getting winning 11 8 international japanese version instead of PES4, if the normal trends are folowed?

Thaaaaaanking you. So why the hell do they make it worse? Baffling.

Yeah t1000, i agree it didnt look like a badge designer specifically, did it? VERY VERY INTERESTING.

Yeah, thats kind of what i was hoping youd say about the licenses. Odd how theyd tweak for the worst, though. I cant imagine how or why they'd do that. On the other hand I'd prefer licensed teams to 2 balls. I guess at the end of the day, I'm going to be getting PES4.. Although this is a dummy...

Ive not actually had a WE, although Ive had all the PES's. Can someone tell me - do they do much in between them apart from basically translate them? And maybe different teams? What can we expect to see in PES4 that isnt in WE8, and so on?

Ach, Punzz. Im teasing. They DO suck, but Im teasing..... heh

Punzz.. hahahaha..! Oh, btw, Thrice suck :P

Thanks T1000. Its good to have someone else with optimism – and perspective! OK, some of us are going overboard about how good it’ll be, but that’s down to past experience of products. People who are going way over-board with the negativity seem to totally lack objectivity. As I said, we all...

How do you all expect it to look so different on a stupid video camera? Also, the perspective WE is played at means it NATURALLY wont look much different to its predecessor. And anyway - how different can it look? Dont be stupid. As for playing on carpet, obviosuly you've never been to a good...

oh GOD this is going to be so good. That header is fantastic. I am going to do what that japanese guy did and play it and forget to eat for days until I die. :D

yeah lami, I was joking. My expectations are SO high as well - its hard! But equally Im trying not to expect much so it'll be al the better.. but christ, now all this is looking good, Im going to s*x wee, I swear!! If he exists: GOD BLESS KONAMI I have tears in my eyes.

Lami - what else were we expcting :)

Also - Giangtr - heading a ball in real life effectively is quite hard in some ways. Sure, defensive headers are easy enough, and your standard glancing and redirectional ones. But a truly great header, running in and rocketing it in, takes a massive degree of timing, vision, bravery and so on...

Wixon, thats a stupid comment. OK, the set squad size is fine, that Chelseas is bigger than Juve for example. BUT its really annoying when you can't just ADD a new player to a squad when editing, its like.. replace or nothing, if I recall. or swap. I think thats what people mean. As a point - I...