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That's maybe the lamest excuse I've heard since Seabass said he couldn't get 360 directions on Xbox 360 lol

I wouldn't say its a trump card, I'd say its a latter-stage improvement at best

I hate people who say "oh wait til the improvement, X number of new animations, this is 60% old code" etc ... just judge on what has been released to the public and form an opinion on that, cos everything is just hear'say and not true to the game/preview footage

Shit is being generous ;)

Which is why alot of people nowadays seem to be ignoring "reviews" and going with the general sway of the message boards/forums. PES Fan & WENB are just a disgrace TBH so no-one should listen to a word they say or go on their PES-positive-or-else-you-die forums

Thats the thing though, up close it looks OK, but in normal/wide came it just looks ... average. There is still hope though, we should rejoice!

WENB/PESFan ;)

This does look promising indeed :)

You can say that PES2010 so far is lacking 100% and is last years code, hasn't got updated graphics, whatever - I'm just going on what's been released in videos as I haven't seen any of this so called "not one month old code" videos - if Konami don't want me to think it looks like '09 then don't...

I respect your opinion, and I can kind of see your theory of watching an AI vs AI game but at the same time you can't really base anything on watching a game like that cos the game wasn't built around AI vs AI, surely I agree that the passing system was messed up in PES09, which is the main...

Just because its 1 month old doesn't mean its going to be a completely new-n-improved game with this extra month. We'll see though, I'm just hoping we get 2 good games this year and Konami actually pull through without f*cking up another game

Thats complete bull, sorry. Lacking 90% newer animations? No way. As much as I used to be a PES fan, and still deep down its my favourite game of all time, there is no way that PES2010 will be better overall than FIFA10. Just because FIFA is slower doesnt make it a bad game or bad gameplay. It...

Post of the day right there. Agreed 100%

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q6gCFn1MAM&feature=related Surely no-one can say that this video just looks like PES2009.5 The first few videos I saw from Gamescom had me pretty optimistic ... the more I see the more I'm having doubts :s Really hope playing it isn't like playing PES2009.5...

I agree with you on everything you just said. Apart from one area in which you are completely wrong. PES 2010 looks like updated version PES 6, not PES 2009. ;) Its looked exactly the same for the last 5 years now, with just minor graphical improvement every year. I remember Konami...

Wasn't that everyones tactics in PES2-6? Do you mean cutting in as in cutting in to shoot or cut back cross? Cos the cut back cross tactic, although brilliant back in the day, does get VERY old year after year

That's right. It's all about who gets it in their game first ;)

I'm sure that when they signed their contracts that they had a confidentiality/privacy clause in there. Hell, I've got one and I work for a web development company. Saying that if I left, I can't take any programming or anything I developed with me. Although if it was just an idea in my head...

When I said stole, I meant emulated, copied, borrowed, whatever - it's still more or less the same thing. I think there would be a massive woolapalooza though if FIFA "emulated" the set-piece creator from PES - you wouldn't hear the end of it from PES fans, they would be outraged like no...

At the end of the day, FIFA has stolen PES concepts, PES has stolen FIFA concepts. Long as they make both games better, I couldn't care less what gets stolen ... ... within reason of course - I wouldnt be too impressed with Konami if they stole this set piece editor in FIFA, like I'm not too...