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Agreed. Let's be honest though they can't go too far wrong with basing it around PES 6 and can't exactly make a worse game, IMO, than 2009. Oh the good old days of when one year PES gameplay was fast, then next year it was slow, etc etc ... at least this years PES is looking MUCH better than...

It wasn't a statement, it was an observation.

... which is what they should have done on PES 2008. But hindsight is a brilliant thing. (Can't say I blame them for going back to the PES6 basis - what a game that was .. but that discussion has been done to death)

TBH that's not really a valid argument 'cos over the years both PES and FIFA have "stolen" ideas from each other and implemented them into each others games. It's when the core gameplay starts turning into the others' when you can say that one is emulating the other And I'm sure I've seen a...

Well then you haven't got a valid arguement against FIFAs playing styles when you havent played for long enough to have a proper opinion. Basically, what Baddar is saying is that it can be easier against the big sides 'cos u can counter attack them, whereas against smaller sides they will play...

Agreed. Otherwise the discussions will end up as "I know you are but what am I" type of childish arguements

I've said this in my other posts but PES 2010 just looks the exact same game as it was 4 years ago - just with updated graphics & animations, it may be a good game for some and not for others, but at the end of the day look at how little progress has been made since the PS2 glory days. PES2010...

strange, my thoughts were that PES2010 looked dated compared to FIFA, and just in general Although at times FIFA does look slow to respond, though I think that's due to the player's stats and not the game in general if that makes sense (eg player response stats: 63/100, reaction time 68/100, etc.)

I've been lurking on these forums for a long time now, finally registered today. This forum is sooo addictive. I posted the following at PESFan ... but they deleted my post so I'm never visiting their website ever again. f*cktards. "The sad thing about the PES 2010 gameplay we've seen is that...