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I agree, shielding the ball is one of the first things you learn when you are taught to play football. First touch into space, or shield the ball and look for the foul or an outlet. Basic stuff really.

Where do you get all of these insights? I am interested to see as much detail and videos about the game as possible. I would like to be part of bet a testing but I have no idea where to go.

I am actually looking forward to PES2012. And even if it is PES2011 v1.5 I think I could live with that. A rip off? most certainly, but personally I really want a good PES to play with some players in it who aren't retired now. If PES2012 is just PES2011 with fixed game-play issues then that's...

1. Take PES6 game engine 2. Strengthen and improve Defencive AI and take attacking AI from PES2011 3. Improve all-round AI positioning 3. Make AI less forgiving in attack - so it doesn't miss easy chances. 4. Add PES2011 Master League with fixed transfer exploit 5. Add training from PES4-5...

I will buy PES 2012 for reasons: 1. Master League is addictive and FM isn't up to scratch yet. 2. The demo is never like the final game. 3. I like to make my own club 4. PES2012 might actually be half decent this year.

There are only two things that interest me when I think about PES: Gameplay and Master League. The problem with PES2012 is PES2011. Although not every aspect of PES is bad, (a lot of it actually is very very good), there are specific areas of game play that are so bad they ruin the game. The...

I think what this all basically comes down to is that Konami, Seabass et al are now just fiddling. They have taken things as far as they themselves are capable of taking them. Now they are just rehashing the same old code every year. It would help if they stopped making a PS2 game every year...

I wonder when the last time was Seabass played his own game? I mean the guy must know its shite these days, what are Konami playing at? I mean games are supposed to get a bit better with each version not steadily worse. For me the last good PES was PES3 - that was a complete game, best football...

I didn't say you can't have an oppinion. But people who let Konami get away with such sloppy programming and say its 'ok, and I don't mind' ARE the reason PES is going to shit. Because unless people get on Konami's backs and say pull your finger out, they will just keep doing the bare minimum...

Also the rage thread has some of the most views of any thread on this site. A fan site with a complaints thread this big should be a bit of a clue.

Someone of your level of intelligence is bound to get a Darwin award sooner rather than later.

You are getting the game you deserve, have fun playing PES2011 all year and writing in this thread. You have some life. By the way, there are ten year old PS1 pro evos that are better than PES2011. Have a think about that before you fanboy yourself into an early grave. Moron.

My advice to everyone here is to get FIFA11, I bought it a few days ago and its another world compared to the lazy useless shitty game. PES is dead and buried.

People like you are the reason this game has gone down the toilet. You accept such pathetic game play faults and ask for more next year.

I never pressed any button, I was just waiting for the keeper to collect the ball. I didn't expect that. Anyway it doesn't matter, my copy of FIFA 11 arrived yesterday and I f'ing love it. It has its faults but in every aspect the game is far superior to PES. To see how far PES 2011 is behind...

The only way you will stop AI cheating in PES is for different people to make the game in the first place. The developers of PES have gotten comfortable using programming cheats such as scripting to take short cuts, rather than to actually programme a strong AI like in the past. I for one have...

I'm sorry but a game that calls itself a football simulation and has player movement and player selection as bad as this can't be called great. AI team-mates in this game just don't move forwards into space. Good movement is finding space AHEAD of the player with the ball. Not behind. Also...

Actually, making the game good is supposed to be Konami's job. Not the gamers. Soon as they figure that bit out we might get somewhere.

For me PES2010 was terrible in every way, shooting around the box was so unresponsive and retarded it was ridiculous. The players moved like oil tankers in treacle, The menus were hopeless, through-balls were a disgrace. Totally unfinished game. PES2011 is better, but not by much. Both are PS2...

Says everything really. How do you say moron in your language?