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AI looks absolutely deadly, Messi in particular! Maybe this year when you get your originals team into the Champions League, you really will be clinging on for dear life against the likes of Inter and Real Madrid. Unlike 2011. Thing most impressed me was the pressing and the aggression of the...

I think its fake too, looks like a Master System Menu art

I agree, especially when it takes two weeks out and you can do nothing.

Its all gone quiet about 12 at the moment, any idea when to expect more news about the game? Particularly ML?

Realistic injuries are a must this year. Konami shouldn't be affraid to let the user have five ro six or even more players injured at one time, managing a squad is a big part of the interest in Master League.

Gameplay>everything else

I like the idea of having the hex system. If you were to get rid of the traditional system I'd like to see: 1. Mentality and physical stats similar to FM 2. a hex for skill 3. perhaps vids of players or something, so you have to assess their skill level. Would be more...

I am currently killing time by playing Red Dead Redemption through again. Also been playing CODMW but found that quite overly hyped and disappointing. No football season and no PES is a killer.

I have PES2012 on pre-order on Amazon so I get a good deal. Will wait until I play the demo and make my choice. Would advise everyone who can to do the same.

This is my wishlist for tactics and training in PES2012: 1. Total freedom for formation: if you want 7 defenders or no forwards you should be able to. 2. Positions: player position training should not cost money, to offset it, players should be unable to train normally for a certain number...

I disagree, the AI in 2011 was very beatable on Top Player, I was beating Real Madrid and Inter Milan with a team still half made up of originals. I should have had virtually no chance but I was comfortable throughout.

Things that will make me buy: 1. Tough, unforgiving AI 2. A single Master League that will last until next year.

Although this isn't something which particularly bothers me, I have to say it doesn't seem like something that would be difficult or time consuming to implement in the game. As pitches have to have under soil heating or some kind of weather protection at the top level, meanign the pitch will...

I think I read somewhere that Konami won't be using Steam at all which is a bit disappointing.

What they need to do is make a game play vid of some hardcore players playing against the AI on Top Player. At least someone not just having a kick about but as if they are in the final of the Champions League. Players who play intelligently. I'd suspect 95% of the game-play videos are...

Can anyone in the know tell me if the rosters will be up to date this year?

100% agree, on-line has taken over gaming too much, PES is about Master League and game-play for me, that's where the real lifespan is. The AI doesn't quit halfway through or when its losing.

This is looking good, player selection is better, movement is more fluid, more responsive players, might be on to a winner this year.

I think its just someone complaining about the defending in PES. Nothing to do with 2012.

Estimated is just Amazon covering themselves if there is a delay. They do it with every purchase. I expect the 14th to be accurate to within a day or two anyway if not spot on. Given that, I'd expect a demo to be available around 19th-20th September and a few days earlier for the PSN judging...