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The AI does cheat no matter what everyone says, the problem is that the AI has perfect timed execution and angle EVERY time, they should have at least some sort of error proneness just like players do in real life, otherwise football would be played by robots. And no im not in 17th place im...

Thats true shoulder feints are hard but you can do it without them in pes just need to get the defender off balance.

Some more info on that, what stats will you be editing mostly?

dribbling is actually pretty good in this game and resembles real life pretty good, all you need is understand the fundamentals of dribbling. If you don't play real soccer then watch Messi/Iniesta etc and what they do to get past players.

Did anyone figure out how growth is in ML yet? So far I only tried the condition training since your players don't lose any other points like they do in other trainings which imo is ridicilous, top players have intense and varied trainings and don't lose some attributes as a result of it...

which ones?

PES 2012 looks like its going to be a pretty decent game once someone makes realistic stat changes and once jenkey and yair patch it up a bit, but I still don't think it will be amazing. Here are the things that PES 2012 lacks to make it a really amazing game : First things that will...

The passing was better in pes 11 imo, in 12 the passing still feels assisted even on 0 and some very few rare times you wanted to pass to another player very close to someone but the game will instead pass to the other guy. Also the power is off, most of the times it feels good but sometimes...

quote from some other place which I mostly agree with ( some points not tho ), alltho there are a few more issues aswell.

Too much work cba.

Because im registered at both and more people = more opinions.

So is it hard to program the AI to start pressuring you if you do that and pressure you smart to force you into a mistake? I think thats very easily achieved. Do you realize the flaw this has in the game, I might get a goal early in the match and then keep posession till the end, even on...

Im beyond shocking because I offer critique of the game? Come on seriously dude, try playing Barca CPU vs low tier team CPU and see if its realistic, also try sprinting with your defender and tell me if a defender in real life can sprint and have the ball glued so close? Also test how many...

Thats all fine and dandy but why don't you try putting a weak team to play against Barca and see if theres any difference between Real and that weak team in terms of posession etc... come back to me with that. Heres another reason why AI is dumb, its dumb in closing down players and unaware...

Can you read!? Obviously not.

Nice screenshot of a CPU vs CPU match : If anyone can seriously say this is alright deserves to be shot, srsly.. WHY KONAMI?

So because he joined this site before I did he knows more about soccer, wow you sure are a genius want a lollypop?

Yep like the title says, the AI is shit. KONAMI promised us great AI this year but honestly its shit. 1. All teams play the same or at least extremely similar, theres no difference when u play Barca or Real Zaragoza in terms of playing, I find it so funny how Barca keep playing long ball all...

OP is absolutely spot on. You obviously have no clue about soccer, pls go.

What are you talking about? Its even easyer to pass the ball around once you get the hang of the manual passing and players have better control of the ball and everything compared to 2011 so yes you can play even more like Barca in 2012, but that was not my point at all. My point was about...