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No matter who I play they all play almost exactly the same, wasn't the AI the priority this year? Barca, Real , lower tier teams... all play the same, and I even edited tactics for them like posession for barca etc... and still they play the same. Its like those tactics don't change anything...

This is bs, care to explain? From what ive seen so far the only thing AI looks to do is rush forward and shoot, theres no build up possession play.

Looks like same shit. Two lower tier english clubs and players have the ball glued to their feet like Barca players, and the shooting accuracy seems world class too.

Me wants to know aswell.

I would give FIFA a 5 and PES a 6 , but thats only based on the demos.

If you do that you will burst a bit , which will give you some space. Sadly its limited because you can't choose the direction of it..

Yea, and what exactly does freedom of play have with how hard the game is dumbass?

I just don't get why KONAMI always promises us more freedom and yet we keep getting limited with everything, even the new things they add. Two good examples this year is the changed shot feint and the speed burst. Now they are 2 good add ons but WHY for the love of god don't we have...

Players deserve a much lower stat than in PES games, infact Messi should probably be around 90~.

I agree but im going to tell you right now that those issues won't be fixed in the full game, 99%. Hopefully jenkey can fix or at least improve those two things later.

I doubt it will be different.

Yeah it doesn't solve it for online but it does solve it for offline and thats a big part of the game, I play offline quite alot, ML, BL etc. Its at least something..

Well I was playing around with the editor and I edited some stats in this 2nd demo. Mainly I edited 2 teams : Bayern and Inter in my case What I did was I edited the players to make them more realistic based on real life so I lowered shooting acc since everyone's aim was supernatural good, I...

I didn't notice that but I think that sounds fairly realistic if you play with a lower club like Rangers maybe? that your stamina would be extremely low at around 60-70 mins, now if you play with Barca I would expect it to still be going good after 80. Alltho being empty is a bit weird, more...

Wishful thinking, this demo 2 is pretty much how the full game is going to look like.

Too much... - Goalkeepers / no explanation needed. - Reverse catch up bug / completely reversed from last year this year once an attacking player goes past you YOU WILL NOT catch him EVER, even if ur defender has 99 top speed and the attacker has 70 and 70 dribble speed. -...

amen...

What don't you get? 1. When you pass the ball to your player into space u have no control over him, he will run straight at the ball even tho it would be better to do it in a different way sometimes, for example turn away a bit and intercept the ball sooner. Computer taking control of your...

If you fix the unresponsiveness from PES 2011 and make players feel smooth and react and turn faster and smoother it almost looks like a better game than 2012 tbh...

There are more for sure - Close control, technique, speed etc... it feels similar no matter who you control, some players are better and some worse but the difference is so small you can barely feel it, it feels like 30 stat change in this game is same as 10 stat change in pes 2011. - No...