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  1. Amateur

    Had to quit Master League, Nearly done with this game.

    That's a fair argument. However, if the COM respects the STATS..... the game would be too easy and too repetitive; this is why all STAT driven games, PES5, PES6, PES11, FIFA11: are very scripted. Not just FIFA11, but also PES5 and PES6 were very scripted video games. A lot of people praise...
  2. Amateur

    Had to quit Master League, Nearly done with this game.

    FIFA11: like PES11 or PES5, the stats wrok on their own, which means that the game will be scripted in some way or the other. That's what you get when you copy PES without replacing the Famicom Concept, you get the same flaws that PES has, and the fact that EA Sports is not experienced with...
  3. Amateur

    Pes 2011 worst game in years

    Nah, not really. Before uttering sheer stupidity, taking your opinion for a fact, pretending that you understand my argument when you clearly don't, uttering the word "debate" when you don't know shit about debating; that sort of thing. I know what I'm talking about; you clearly have no idea...
  4. Amateur

    Had to quit Master League, Nearly done with this game.

    That's what it all boils down to, Even when cheating or scripted play is not as obscene, when you play against friends, the game is even more boring. I don't care about AI cheating, because it has always been an essential part of the game, for as long as I can remember; and more importantly...
  5. Amateur

    Had to quit Master League, Nearly done with this game.

    I know what you mean, I feel the same way. Though for me, it's not about going back to PES5 or PES6, because PES5 and PES6 are just as dumb; and, in addition, modern animations, modern graphics, the modern passing system, will never fit in with the ISS/PES5/PES6 Famicom Concept. This was...
  6. Amateur

    Pes 2011 worst game in years

    Fully agree, I find it rather ironic, that they have been saying that they wanted the hardcore fans back, but producing the easiest and most repetitive game ever... is not exactly hardcore is it? PES10 had some nice touches, despite the very robotic animations and feel; on the other hand, I...
  7. Amateur

    Pes 2011 worst game in years

    Same here, I thought PES11 would last more, but after playing two games yesterday and turning off the game, the only thing that makes sense is selling the game. The advanced movement mechanics is one of the issues, but FIFA11 has "advanced" movement mechanics and yet it still is a shit...
  8. Amateur

    The Pound For Pound Best Football Games Ever Made

    PES5 was the first and the last Football Sim I was addicted to, it was the first Football Sim that I played that actually required some getting used to, had a noticeable layer of player individuality, good feel to it, etc, etc. PES5 was the game that showed a lot of potential; but 5 years...
  9. Amateur

    Pes 2011 worst game in years

    The PS2 versions were cool for the time, but honestly, I do not enjoy playing them anymore; it's too scripted and arcade. My point is, that PES11 has absolutely nothing to do with Football, you never need to do any build-up play: I can pass the ball forwards and just like that I'm in the...
  10. Amateur

    Pes 2011 worst game in years

    The worst Football Sim of all times will always be PES08. Seriously. A Football Sim cannot be any worst, that was as bad as it can possibly be.
  11. Amateur

    Pes 2011 worst game in years

    LOL Can you imagine Seabass walking about with that phrase imprinted on his forehead; an interesting thought, reminds me of Inglorious Basterds. But seriously, it's just simple things that we have yet to see properly implemented into a Football Sim; and yet things that are already possible...
  12. Amateur

    Pes 2011 worst game in years

    I get what you mean, I feel the same way about PES11, it does have some positives, but the negatives are unbearable at times. PES11 is pick up and play, I have confirmed and reaffirmed this beyond any doubt, because my FIFA friends who were noobs at PES10, are actually quite good at PES11...
  13. Amateur

    Pes 2011 worst game in years

    Without the STRATEGIES, PES11 is a good video game, for me it is the best PES to date in terms of dribbling with the ball and scoring goals. However, when I consider the STRATEGIES, PES11 is one of the worst video games I have ever played: the STRATEGIES are completely automatic, things that...
  14. Amateur

    Had to quit Master League, Nearly done with this game.

    Reading the word TECHNIQUE is a lot easier than specifying what I mean, is it not? Usually, when you talk, you try to summarize things, you don't go and say "technique is a lot of things, but I mean to say his dribbling technique, bla, bla, bla" -- I know what you mean, and I agree with that...
  15. Amateur

    Had to quit Master League, Nearly done with this game.

    And you CAN debate? Let me see, what are you going on about? That PES11 is restricted by a PS3 Console. Tech_Skill already put your redundant argument to bed; and yet, you are still here, talking about my ability to debate. Are you still debating that PES11 is restricted by the PS3...
  16. Amateur

    Had to quit Master League, Nearly done with this game.

    Dude, Maradona was one footed, beckham is one footed: can you notice the fucking difference in terms of on-the-ball quality or not? I never said Le Tissier was a better player than either Veron or Beckham; I only said he had better on-the-ball technique, and that was obvious. Actually, if...
  17. Amateur

    Had to quit Master League, Nearly done with this game.

    No, I do not fit into that groupd of skeptics, because I actually look for reasons before complaining about every little by-product. But considering the fact that you discredited everything that I said, I fall well within your "geek" list; because I am actually "geek" enough not to see that...
  18. Amateur

    Had to quit Master League, Nearly done with this game.

    Yeah, that after you described - without specifying - the people who moan as "geeks" who apparently, have yet to found the front door of their homes; never mind the fact that in order to earn your living you must find that front door on a daily basis. In other words, you started the personal...
  19. Amateur

    don't know if i should get the game

    If I was you, I would not buy the game. As you said, it has very little to do with difficulty, because it has everything to do with the gameplay concept not being good enough; difficulty is a redundant argument, when the foundation on which it stands is not worth the time and money. PES11...
  20. Amateur

    AI is what ruins PES 2011

    After a day of owning PES11, I find it hard to believe that some people actually had to "adapt" to the massively different PES11. PES5 and PES11 are the same fucking game, as far as I'm concerned: dumb, superficial, outdated, automatic, scripted, insubstantial, stat driven, repetitive...
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