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One of the many demonstrations, of just how dumb PES11 really is.

Yeah but you are overlooking the importance of structure and substance, and above all, the importance of replay value. Believe me when I say, that I used to enjoy PES5 and PES6 very much. However, as the years go by, you start to notice that games like PES5 and PES6 are not as good as you...

Well I do not agree with that philosophy, because even if it's not my cup of tea, I can appreciate when a video game is good or bad. It's all down to the structure and the substance. For instance, even if you do not like CHESS, you know that CHESS is in fact a great game; because it is...

Fully agree. Everything you have mentioned, has a very direct effect on how the game plays: the game is now 100% pre-determined by the COM, the movement without the ball is entirely automatic and COM dictated. Konami must live in reverse world as they seem to think PC's are using less and...

People who don't know shit about Football and do not care about a quality experience, people whom are just looking for a quick and easy fix that does not requires any build-up play nor any thinking; that's you, people who do not give a shit about strategies nor about substance. And who gives...

I already said why it gives you no freedom: you do not know WHEN it will start working, and you don't know WHERE it will start working. In other words, you are not really playing Football, you are simply reacting to COM dictated circumstances. In order to play anything remotely close to...

That's the thing about strategies, you need to test them, not just say it's broken after 30 minutes of playing the game. In PES10, I played with Xavi Hernandez as a 5th Center Back, it changed the whole experience of the game. I used the L2'strategies, I used the CB Overlapping Run Strategy...

I don't like to talk shit like you do, I don't have FIFA11 because I think that, like PES11, it is an outdated and noob-based video game. I have played every FIFA game since 2001, I have always beaten the so-called "hardcore" gamers since always, most of the time, a rare defeat here and there...

It ruins the experience when I can do it 7 times per game, without failing, yes it ruins the experience.... and yes, you would know why that is, if you knew half as much as I know about real football. There's a thin line between the user using the STATS to his advantage, and the STATS doing the...

PES10: with the L2 STRATEGIES, I could create USER dictated circumstances, and also, react to the USER dictated circumstance..... that the USER, me, created. PES10: without the L2 STRATEGIES, it was a robotic and plain disappointing video game. PES11: with the SELECT STRATEGIES, I cannot...

Yeah right, because pace will make a rubbish game good, right? FIFA is ok for a laugh, but the animations do not hide the fact that FIFA11 is an outdated and insubstantial video game. Again, someone who thinks that slowing down the game-speed will produce the perfect gameplay experience...

Because it's your opinion? You should not put the word "true" or "truth" in a phrase where you also say: "why do I much prefer" Obviously, you prefer PES due to personal preference, and preference has little to do with facts.

Precisely, Which is why I have decided not to spend more time and money supporting such a decadent product, it's not for me, it's aimed at casual gamers who want to score goals without utilizing their brains, cheap tricks and thrills. That said, talking with fellow gamers and communicating...

When playing with friends, 2 vs 2, FIFA11 can be fun for a laugh. But I would never pay for it, because it is utterly clear, after 10 minutes of playing it, that the game is rubbish. Sadly, I cannot say positive things about PES11, for me PES11 is just too easy and superficial, kind of like a...

Yeah, I don't remember the last time I saw something like that in real life football: cheap tricks and thrills, zero substance where it matters the most. I'm not saying PES11 is that much better nor do I think PES11 is better; I'm just saying, both PES11 and FIFA11 are insubstantial and...

I can play FIFA11 and enjoy it, for a laugh, because to me FIFA11 is like an idiot being idiotic and perhaps making you laugh from time to time. On the other hand, I cannot play PES11, because to me PES11 is like an idiot pretending to be a poet... it may fool you once or twice, but at the end...

To me, most of the suggestions in this thread, I don't see the point of it. What URGENTLY needs fixing for PES12? It is impossible to urgently fix a core flaw that has been around since PES ever existed. You can fix or improve the player switching but the game will still be utter shit. Of...

Don't be sorry for me, be sorry for yourself. You have mentioned the word joke and laughable so many times in such a short sentence, that perhaps you hear both words on a consistent basis? Do you honestly think, that I give a fuck about what you think; I take it as a complement that a moron...

I agree with you, but I think the person who wanted to communicate with me really wanted to try to communicate, though it kinda defeats the purpose of communicating when you already have your mind made up about "some people" who "must accept that PES is a video game". Sadly, we all experience...

It really has nothing to do with what you are saying. You are talking about the concept, and you are restricting your argument to revolve around the concept; on the other hand, I do not want the same old concept because it is scripted and automatic, it expired with FIFA09, and every Football...