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This is the problem I found with many PES supporters, they are hanging on to old memories. I have seen threads over and over again about which PES is the best and it usually falls on PES 5 or PES 6. To me this is a disgrace. The best pro evo game to-date was on the PS2 platform ....just...

Oh boy ..here we go again! I know tons of people who play Fifa 12 and none of them talks about AI cheating. I do hear complains that the new tactical defending has a steep learning curve ...which makes it sort of impossible to defend against teams like Barca...but ... No one talks about...

There ya go! :rolleyes:

All honesty...I scream at Fifa too.....but I just like coming here a throw the word Fifa around and watch ppl go crazy. You have the right to not like Fifa ...anyone does. So its not your cup of tea ..meh. Means nothing. You have fair knowledge about both games ...and I do agree with...

Oh don't get me wrong ....there are plenty like you who buys a video game, plays it and then says it is cheating ya... Its a video game! Nothing realistic ....do you get that?

What? :shocking: There are only two legit reasons why this happens... 1 PES servers are shit ...ask anyone its not a fucking secret 2 Nobody plays PES anymore......they are all on Fifa's servers :w00t EA ..its in the game .. peace

I love it when people like yourself plays a video game and then states that the 'Artificial Intelligence' of the game is cheating them. Do you even understand what that means? Basically you are saying that a computer game that gives you the control of lets say 10 players has learned a...

Better than that ....Konami better pray to god that Jenky is around next year to patch the game again or else .....the whole entire 7 persons here who support the game will burst a vein in their heads trying to play this total shit for a game they put out year after year... Who the fuck plays...

I am not sure why you even posted this....everyone here already knows you hate fifa without even playing the game. 2 hours of prolonged gaming ...wow :w00t To me it sounds like the game is still kicking ur butt bro..:D penalties, last minute goals, crappy defending, cpu cheats ... are...

...and to believe that the ps3 is supposed to have superior graphics make me understand that Konami is not pushing this title to the its full potential. They need a full revamp of this title to bring back some life to the series. I would personally start by replacing the word 'soccer' with...

I applaud your honesty in admitting that some basic areas need fixing. However, not everyone has the ability to apply the Jenky patch since we are on consoles instead of a PC. Here is where most of us have a problem. I hate to sound pessimistic but I am convinced that Seabass has run out...

I agree with Micho and with all the points he listed ...that is basically all aspect of the game. The only part that missing is the AI which also needs fixing. So in summary PES 2012 was not a good release for many. I also agree that Seabass has overstayed his welcome at Konami. It is obvious...

You are right.....the same goes for me being an arse. peace

Waddup my fellow New Yorker, I am in the Bronx and its really nice to see a fellow American on this site. You can always pickup a copy of PES at GameStop. Happy Thanksgiving ! :blush:

Hahaaa! :w00t I agree....100% Weird having to agree with you ...but you make sense

Point taken Tech .....and this is why most PES players do not like Fifa. You have said it clearly, and i understand. From a personal stance you do not like tricks and skills. But you must understand that although you think it resembles cartoon, street fighter football....many of us like the...

Nope, I am not saying that Fifa players want a game that is less realistic.... I am saying that Fifa games offer a different package which includes the unique celebrations and player tricks and skills. The game still has a remarkable AI and gameplay. Now in my opinion this makes the game...

Hmm...:( Could you list the specs of the computer here? Also, when you copy over the patch, are u still using the old shortcut on the desktop? You should use the new shortcut from the directory where you copied the patch. Maybe i can suggest better settings.

I like the fact that you are at least honest and fair...unlike some. My only effort here is get others to realize that not everyone sees each game the same way. I respect the fact that you love PES and its gameplay.....I also did not too long ago. But I also hate the fact that because PES...

Sup, Your first statement says it all. Its all about preference. I did not say long balls are not lethal, just in the sense of how it is used in the fast paced game. Unless you are quite open in PES there is always an opponent to challenge the ball. From all the videos posted by...