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Sup Sminky, For me, the bad part about Fifa is the Impact Engine. It just doesn't work as it should. I am still having trouble with the new defending system also but I must say it it much more realistic to real football. None of the games will represent football in a true to life...

I get it that you must be new to PES.... Well here is the deal ..its been happening for over 6years now. Online only works for some people (didn't for me) They will make you open ports, port forward, change routers, clear cache, turn off every device in your household that uses any...

:w00t So summing up your comment ... Call of Duty and Skyrim (Two of the best games to hit any gaming platform) is for NOobs and was developed for mass appeal. But Dark Soul ...is for hard core gamers ? Huh? :ohmy: WTF is dark soul? I am happy to see that you are the PES side...

:crymore: I am afraid you are 100% correct here Castro.....Shaun7 does not play Fifa anymore. I figured that he tried to play the game and got his arse kicked plenty ..so he decided to give the game a bad name. Next you will find Techskill and Amatuer who do not play the game either but...

This maybe be good news for many who are hoping this new release of PES2012 will soothe the wounds from the horrific game they release ..well just months ago. However, based on Konami/Seabass record....I don't see how anyone would believe that they have created a better game in a shorter...

:laugh: Sup tech? I almost forgot about you....

:shocking: We may very well have different versions of the game. Are you sure you have Fifa12 made by EA sports? No video game has ever "cheated" me. I have out smarted all of them so far. :blush: However, I have seen games such as PES with very poor programming that makes the...

Sup Shaun? :D Glad to see your keeping up with ur English classes...(Metaphors) I know you own the game ...but you should be playing it bro. Now..how about some alliterations ...PES plays like pure piss. peace

Great team Castro, I am getting hammered in UT right now since someone stole a couple of my players. How did you aquire so many elite cards? Did you get them in gold packs? Anyways, listen...there is no way you are going to convince anyone here that Fifa 12 is the game. I tried telling...

Sup Tru, Just saw your vids on youtube which took me back here. Great vids and very detailed. I am surprised you took so much time out of your day to highlight some of the annoying aspects of PES...but it was worth it. I strongly do not believe that there is a thing called "AI cheating"...

:brickwall: Reeetard!

Come on Bro ....you know you love Fifa just admit it man. You and me was no the same page until you drank the koolaid from Sabatasso and Tech... Jump ship Shaun ....dont settle for second best ...

Listen dude, I admire your persistence if nothing else, and your love for PES is unquestionable. BUT I have some questions for you - Aren't you doing the same exact thing I am doing ? Where do you find the time to write so much crap about both games? Have you realized that the only...

It will only get worst bro....next they will tell you to download a patch to make the game work better...or point you to a thread where you go to learn how to shoot.... Have you ever "learned how to shoot" in Fifa? Well you have to in PES because the ball doesn't go where you intend to. I...

:shocking: As usual Sabatasso you guys always end up shooting urselves in the foot. You didn't even look at the video link i posted..... where did i post a video showing Fifa's best moments and PES worst .....? Where did i post that? As usual you didn't even bother to check did...

That's pretty easy to figure out bro.....there is a thread on this forum named "how do you shoot in PES2012" ....that should more or less answer your question. From the video link i provided ...its obvious that Fifa 12 shooting is miles above PES 2012.

:w00t Wow ...and how often does that happen the "four consistent rebounds" that you speak of. Are you just making up scenarios? Are you serious? Where do you guys live? How is it possible for you to have a brain. If the ball keeps rebounding off three players into my goal ...in every...

Thanks for that ....but Here is my review. PES 2012 is a grossly unfinished game that get a 4.0 for effort. Its in shambles. I have been patching pes games for a very long time and what i have realized is that the patches do not affect animations nor gameplay. Kits, names...

You should bro ....forget all the patch this and patch that. It just doesn't work. They can patch the names, kits, appearances and up the players reaction and shooting stats ...but .... They cannot patch the horrid animations and gameplay that make this game inferior to Fifa. Fifa = little or...

:shocking: War..? I thought i was only discussing a video game. Don't get ur panties in a bunch over this stupid discussion Shaun. Come back to Fifa bro ...just come back. Look, you should probably listen to Sabatasso he knows what he is saying when he states that " i am a self...