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good points, i agree with a lot of what you say. Personally, i much prefer playing against mates but, as all of my mates and myself work 40 hour weeks and go to the football one day of the weekend, i often find that none of them are around when i find a couple of spare hours to play pro. At...

I'm not too bothered about official stadiums (generally you dont see much of them anyway whilst playing), i just want a game that plays well and enables me to play against people online without ridiculous amounts of lag making it a pointless venture. If the online mode and become a legend are...

fucking hell man its only a game. i prefer pes to fifa and have ever since ISS on the SNES, but i am under no illusions, both konami and ea sports just want my money, they dont "deserve" any loyalty- i'll buy whichever game seems to be better each year, it just so happens that i still get more...

That looks class

one thing i like, in previous PES games if you accidentally play a crap pass not realising there is a defender between you and your target they always seem to intercept it- in this version, if the defender between you and your target is running, the ball sometimes goes through his legs or he...

I'd hardly say PES is rotting away! I must admit, i wasnt blown away by the demo but it has been tweaked from the last pro. If the BAL mode is as entertaining as it sounds like it could be and the online mode has none of the lag of the last edition, PES2009 will be the best pro yet and will...

i eventually got the last fifa, and i got EURO2008. Both are very good games imo, they entertained me for a while. the fact is though that, no matter how much they improve (and FIFA games have improved a lot in recent years), scoring a last minute winner or smacking the ball into the top...

and which special striker did you prefer on fever pitch soccer for the SNES ;)

Quality, cheers for clearing that up- i have a feeling that BAL mode will be a huge success for this PES, im certainly looking forward to it

Neither game seemed particularly ground breaking, both very similar to their predecessors imo. I always get PES and was tempted to get both this time, but the fact fifas be a pro career only lasts four seasons has pissed me right off. I wanted to start in league two and make my way up the...

I've played it a few times now (on 360). Must say, after being excited about the demos release, it is a bit of a let down. Im not saying the game is bad, not by a long stretch but, as with the FIFA demo, i feel the game just feels very similar to the last one. Despite thinking that it...

i havent played the pes demo yet but i have played the fifa one and, to be honest, it seemed almost identical to the last one in my opinion. The fact that Be a Pro career mode lasts only 4 years has really turned me off it- i would love starting in league 2 and trying to work my way through the...

How difficult is it once you've played a few games and got used to it? In recent editions once i've got used to the slight variations in gameplay i can immediately beat similarly rated teams on the top level- is this the case again or does it seem like the top level might be a real challenge?

aye, i cant wait for the full game to come out- a nice 21 year career mode controlling one player sounds amazing

quality- is it more difficult than last years or is it too early to tell? PS Your avatar is class, hopefully this years game realises how good we are and makes nyron a legend!

Can you choose difficulty level on the demo? If you can and anyone has the hardest level, how does it compare to last years- i am always hoping the new release will have a super hard mode! Cant wait to get home and download it (hopefully its available on xbox live by now)

i'd imagine about the same. This is the only thing that will spoil the BAL mode a bit- it would be great if you could start in league 2 or at least the championship but that isnt going to happen.

to be fair, the graphics make very little difference to me when deciding what the better game is, im just interested in how the games play. That being said, I'm sure PES will, as always, be better than FIFA

:lol::lol::lol::lol: Aye, a team that is second bottom and managed by Joe Kinnear- i tell you, i'm shaking in me boots like!

when people do this to me, i always report them (on the 360 there is some sort of option to report people for bad sportsmanship etc)- hopefully if enough people report the players who do this, they will be kicked off xbox live. It just spoils what should be a fun pastime (although sometimes i...