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Seriously though, I loaded up the PES 6 demo a few months back after all the complaints about PES 2011. I couldn't see the attraction myself. That degree of low-level technology is unwatchable and unplayable. I prefer to spend my time fixing the recent versions of these games with edits and...

Let us close our eyes, Outside their lives Go on much faster. Oh no, we won't give in, We'll keep living In the pa-st...

At least give people the correct info, c'mon. Check out the various discussion sites around the net. People are saying that reverting back to 1.0 means you're also getting GK play that's noticably worse than the 1.01 update. It's the same lousy GK play that was present in the demo. That's what...

Aren't there programs that allow you play PC games on your Mac? Google it.

Someone named jenkey posted a gameplay mod on EvoWeb. He's working on a stadium select mod as well, the preview vid shows 79 stadiums: http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=65411&page=21

Man, some people just like to argue is all, lol. It's pretty clear to me when reading posts on the different PES forums that you're correct, and that Konami compromised the overall gameplay with the 1.01 patch. But anybody who is actually interested in trying it will, the rest will just argue...

Really? I haven't noticed. And I've been playing exhibition matches and switching sides to the CPU team to see if it ever changes. I've been having this discussion with some other offline FIFA players, and they're all complaining about the same thing -- they never see the CPU change formations...

I don't know. Both games are decent, both are flawed, both are enjoyable and annoying in their particular ways. I'd say buy either or even both, but just be aware of all that.

Insightful and honest overview, agree with all of it.

The question here is what is "cheating"? In FIFA, the CPU cheats. The god mode AI kicks in and players suddenly become near unstoppable to stop. Their agility, shot accuracy, heading and other skill attributes suddenly increase, making it ridiculously difficult to stop them from moving down the...

Hey, you've never played FIFA apparently and watched the scripted madness unfold as the CPU launches into god mode. Same goes for EA's NHL series. It's not new or impossible or some big secret bro. Anyone who has spent any time playing these sports games knows about the momentum scripting that...

Just stop. And drop the internet toughguy schtick while you're at it. The Konami devs have even stated there's scripting in the game, put there in order to make the gameplay more challenging.

Ha-ha! All I'll say is I couldn't get the PK shooting last year, made zero sense to me the way it was set up. But I'll give this a try.

The PC version has mods that allow for countless stadiums, so that's one option.

And you live on some planet other than Earth I assume? ;)

Really?? Why in the name of everything that's left and right in this world would Konami program the L/R shooting to respond to up and down commands? It makes no sense. Next you're going to tell me to improve passing, just hold the controller upside down, lol.

How does holding the L stick up or down solve the issue of the ball going straight at the keeper? Or going right when I aim left, which also happens?

He went there; they threw him out. Now he's back here trying to figure out some way to continue complaining without sounding overly whiny and childish. But it's not working for him unfortunately.

Sorry man, but PES sites are full of threads from gamers talking about the screwy shooting this year. Although I'm glad for you that you have the only perfect version of the game, guess you're just a lucky son of a gun.

Like speaking homo sapien to a cro-magnon. Try grunting, then hitting him on the head with a club. That's more his language. Plus you'll be doing the rest of us a big favor.