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Complete player editing

Chuck Morris

aka BlueScouse
bagrunnell you've done a great job with the Henry stats, subtle changes but he plays a whole lot better now! Haven't had much chance to test out all the others yet, been busy with the WSAG OF, but your doing a great job so far mate. I know your bust with requests but i'll post 1 or 2 later if thats ok? Keep up the good work.:)
 

bagrunnell

Registered User
Thanks for dropping in with some kind words Bluescouse. I think I can forgive you for not trying out the stats as you have been working on that fantastic option file of yours!:D

Right chaps, I am just finishing off Saha and Bowyer and will be starting to post them up shortly.
 

bagrunnell

Registered User
Louis Saha





So there we have Louis Saha, who has finally seemed to escape his injury problems, and is finally showing us all what a terrific player he is, and what he is capable of. This update also raises two points about original stats assigned by Konami. First of all, that Konami can get aspects of a player right:shocking: , and secondly that if they dont know a certain value to assign to a player they just give a random one, either judging by the position they play in or by the team they play for:no: . So here are several aspects which I feel need saying.

Athleticism - Louis is a fast player, and with his big long legs has a great top speed of 89. Konami recognised well the ratio between his top speed and acceleration, but they placed it slightly to high. So in this update he has 89 top speed and 85 acceleration. One thing to also recognise about Louis is that he is just as fast on the ball as he is off it, so he has an 89 for dribble speed as well. Another of his great athletic qualities is his tremendous leap. 90 shows just how high he can get with his springy legs, and he gets up ingame just like he does in real life with this value. I didnt have to change his 83 for stamina as that was spot on already:shocking:, but one thing I DEFINITELY needed to change was his mentality. This is an example of what I mentioned earlier about Konami making up a random figure as they dont really know the right one to use:angry:. In the default data, Louis had a mentality of 66! It may not be his greatest quality but it still requires a figure noticabley higher than that, and I raised it by a whole 10 points to 76. Now ingame, Louis the right correlation between his stamina and mentality and you notice it in the latter stages of the game now. Finally he is has great agility with a value of 88, so he can move his feet just as quick as he can in real life and wriggle through defence.

Shooting - Accuracy and composure of his shot are two great attributes for Louis. An 82 is just right for Louis, as he is not one of those lethal finishers like Crespo, Henry, Schevchenko, but is still great at it and can tuck his shots away well. Shot power is another example of a stat Konami didnt really know for Louis so they made up a random one, probably based on the fact that they use the stereotype 'all strikers must have a really hard shot:angry: . An 88 was what they gave them in the default data:laugh:, which is simply inacurrate. A much more suitable figure is 79 which is what I gave him in this update. It reflects him well, as he can still generate power when he needs to, but he cant blast a ball to the standard of someone worthy of 88 shot power! His technique is fantastic. He is gifted in so much that he has the ability to produce great shots under pressure, even when it looks like he cant. 90 perfectly represents this as ingame he can get great shots off even when the defender is closing down quickly, or about to slide tackle. Dont want to rant guys, but curling was another example of stupidly assigned stat. So instead of me going on about this and hackind some people off, lets just say I raised it all the way to 75 which is much more appropriate:happy:

General Technique - A strong point here for Louis. He has a great first touch, and 86 is just right for his technique rating. Some may say it should be higher, as he has performed some wonderful first touches, but lets not forget he has performed equally as many bad touches, and two or three moments to not change a stat value, so 86 is perfect:D. Another plus for him is he is good with his weaker foot aswell. Konami got his accuracy spot on with a 6, but didnt represent his frequency as well, which needed to be lowered two points down to 5. I will just briefly touch on his passing by saying that Konami did good job generally on it, and I only needed to adjust few of the values by couple of points. Nothing notable or out of the ordinary to mention about his passing:happy:

Team play - The final thing I want to raise about Louis is his team playing qualities. Its something which has definitely improved since his earlier days at Fulham, and something konami haven't recognised. His positioning has got better and the fluency of his passes has got better as well. In short we could some him as having improved in playing for the TEAM, not just being able to run around very fast and knock a few goals in! I raised this value from a default of 73 up to a much more suitable value of 80 which shows his positioning, runs, and passing fluency alot better than the original.:)
 

bagrunnell

Registered User
Grouchomarx - No I haven'T, Im also developing a little thing for accessories, like the appearances and stats, so when I have finished I will update it for you.

Any other feedback on the Saha post?
 

-The Trooper-

New Member
saha rocks mate, really good job on, henry, pirlo and essien too!

I mentioned it a few threads back but i didnt get a reply ... what are the chances of shevchenko, heinze, ashley cole, sorin, ballack, fabregas, and totti?

would be so gratefull for any of em' mate!

keep it up!
 

Papa

Thank you for reading.
Yeah, nice one bagrunnel. You have made my pro-evo so much better and more fun than it used to be. Thank you.

P.s fender-strat....do you actually have a Fender Stratocaster?
 

djbigmore

Registered User
Great job on Saha, thats a player I was praying that you would update - I just wish that you could do an update on all the players on Pro Evo 5 cos all of them so far have been spot on, like Babadiop said you've made my game so much better - Konami need to hire you mate!!!
Keep it up my friend.
 

mufcsean

is LOST
djbigmore said:
Great job on Saha, thats a player I was praying that you would update - I just wish that you could do an update on all the players on Pro Evo 5 cos all of them so far have been spot on, like Babadiop said you've made my game so much better - Konami need to hire you mate!!!
Keep it up my friend.

spot on djbigmore couldnt agree more
 

bagrunnell

Registered User
Wow guys, thanks very much!:D Its when you get replies like that, you realise what your doing is actually reall worthwhile, and it just inspires you to do more and more stuff. Right now Im itching to get posts up for you guys, but if theres one thing I dont want to do is RUSH stuff, which is when it ends up being not as thorough/accurate. So im just going to try and churn out updates over the next few days, whilst keeping the same quality that I am providing the posts at the moment. Or at least I hope they are of a high quality!

So anyway guys, need to wrap up some requests and a few pieces of work including Bowyer, Boa Morte, and then got a couple of comparisons lined up you can hopefully enjoy.:)

Fender Strat - Ive got all those requests down mate, dont worry, and I will try and do as many as I can in the near future. Only one Im not sure about is Sorin. I dont want to lead you along thinking I have the knowledge to do ANY player, as that isnt true. As I said I really dont have the time to watch all the different leagues, but nothing can seperate me from the Premiership!:laugh:

Bluescouse - I have no problem with you adding my link to your sig, infact I feel very priveledged to have that kind of recognition from one of the best option file makers around!

So once again thanks very much guys for all this praise, it really does make the whole thing alot more worthwhile. Also good to see that the editing section on here is starting to become a lot more active again. Cheers guys, and hopefully I can provide you with lots more posts you can enjoy!
 

bagrunnell

Registered User
Yeah, I think we are very fortunate over here at pesinsight in so much that people are generally more patient! Ive seen on other websites, people just barge in, ask for something, keep nagging until they get it, and then dont show any recognition what so ever.

We are fortunate thathat we have people like Villene and Papaboubadiop who haven't said one word about how long its taking, they simply wait patiently understanding why it takes so long and accepting that. For that, I thank them and that is why I like this site so much. Obviously there is nothing wrong with asking again if you dont get an answer (sorry fender-strat!), but thats understandable. So far the only thing even close to an incident was when that guy kept on making remarks on how poorly Luis Garcia was ingame:laugh: (Trust me, his stats are bad, but not underrated!), and kept trying to shun other people out the way and get his request first:no:. But Im confident we wont have any stuff like that on here, as like I said people are both patient and understanding.

Sorry If Im ranting, but Im in a very talkative and explanatory mood!:)
 

-The Trooper-

New Member
papaboubadiop - Indeed I do own a Fender Stratocaster but its taken a back seat as i just got me a Gretsch Elecromatic Jet! - Think Malcolm Young from AC / DC

bagrunnell - Thanks mate! You've been doing an awesome job and I hope you realise how much we all appreciate your hard work at making an great game even better. Konami didnt manage to give the players charachter and your doing just that - Robben, Crespo for example: are just fantastic.

Shouldnt worry about Sorin, its his apperarance and ball controll which annoy me the most but been taking some tips off your work and Ive pretty much done him already! There's no need to rush, just keep it the good work man!
 

bagrunnell

Registered User
Tell you what mate, I will do the Sorin appearance and PM it to you. At least thats a start, but I just dont think I could do his stats to the same degree I have done the others, and as you may have realised Im something of a perfectionist!

Also great to hear you still have a fender strat! I have a white fender strat, (Same one as in Wayne's World), which my older brother once owned, and has been passed down. Must be about 22-23 years old, and It plays like a dream! wouldn't trade it in for anything! Admittedly I dont play it as much as my other guitars, but thats because I dont want to hurt the ol' baby:laugh:

Anyway, thats really off topic, so lets back on course now with some stat editing eh guys?
 

Chuck Morris

aka BlueScouse
bagrunnell said:
Yeah, I think we are very fortunate over here at pesinsight in so much that people are generally more patient! Ive seen on other websites, people just barge in, ask for something, keep nagging until they get it, and then dont show any recognition what so ever.

Jesus Christ, you obviously weren't around when i posted the WSAG Evolution V2! The nagging was fuckin' relentless. lol
 
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