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features should be in pes5/we9

Rapter

Registered User
Stormrider said:
Has temper been mentioned? A new Temper category would be cool. Com players with bad tempers would get booked often. Also they'll often go nuts on the ref after a bad decision causing bookings, that would be sweet.

and for everyone asking to pull shirts and push players you can already do that.

I have to say something about this post and most of the posts u guys are posting about PES5.

PES5 is a video game, therefore if you'll add things that couldn't be controlled by the player, you'll have very bad feedback and many problems. And I'll explain:

Most of us surly want the most realistic game ever, booking for words the player says to a ref, a bad reaction after a goal, maybe even ref mistakes, like a wrong off-side, penalty, card or whatever. Or even a handball of the goaly out of his area, taking the ball from his defender and getting a free-kick in the box. A fan that will run in the pitch and kiss a player, or take a red card in the ref face. And I can go on for ever.

What you don't understand that if you don't have control over those things, it won't be a game you'll want to play competitively. Against the computer it'll be fine, and even amazing, but if you'll play against friends, or in a big tournament, you want to lose because you have a crazy player? or because the game wanted to a show a new option that a player will curse a ref? I'm sure you don't.

Konami could do all those things years ago, but believe me they think the same thing. Every year they add things that they believe will make the game more realistic, without causing any bad things to the game experience. It's not like you are part of 11 players team, you are like god, you are controlling the whole team, and if you can't be fully responsible for the players acts, it'll simply piss you guys off.

Konami can easily make a Soccer/RPG game that after every foul you have an action option:

What do you want to do next?

1.Kill the ref
2. Curse the ref
3. Kiss the ref
4. Take your manager's eye out

But do we really want such a thing? no.

So ... That's all folks :)
 

Stormrider

Registered User
Rapter said:
I have to say something about this post and most of the posts u guys are posting about PES5.

I understand about making the transition to the game to be not 100% realistic b/c that would take out all the fun and you would actually have to play a full 90 min game :lol:

Konami has a great balance of realism, unlike Fifa where it's not realistic enough.

Imo with a Temper category, it would add a new depth to the game even vs a human player b/c you would really have to think when choosing to start a player with great stats but bad temper. Don't you think it would be nice to have that option? I certainly do, and it would be dam funny watching your player get booked or sent off for going nuts on the ref haha. All about having fun right? For the really competitive people, perhaps an option to turn it off would be good for you.

Also I'd like more bookings in the seasons, lacks a tiny bit of excitement for me to rarely lose a player to suspension. With more bookings, it would make you think twice about purchasing a player with bad temper for ML.
 

Rapter

Registered User
Stormrider said:
Rapter said:
I have to say something about this post and most of the posts u guys are posting about PES5.

I understand about making the transition to the game to be not 100% realistic b/c that would take out all the fun and you would actually have to play a full 90 min game :lol:

Konami has a great balance of realism, unlike Fifa where it's not realistic enough.

Imo with a Temper category, it would add a new depth to the game even vs a human player b/c you would really have to think when choosing to start a player with great stats but bad temper. Don't you think it would be nice to have that option? I certainly do, and it would be dam funny watching your player get booked or sent off for going nuts on the ref haha. All about having fun right? For the really competitive people, perhaps an option to turn it off would be good for you.

Also I'd like more bookings in the seasons, lacks a tiny bit of excitement for me to rarely lose a player to suspension. With more bookings, it would make you think twice about purchasing a player with bad temper for ML.

Again it depends on what you want. But the majority of players that would get angry about a red card due to a crazy player, is higher then players that will find it a good option.

Konami surly can add a lot more elements, but you have to make them reasonable.
 

Stevie Baby

Village Idiot
Righty then, some of my ideas (duno if they've been mentioned yet)


1. A full 90 minute real time match (imagine master league on that)
2. Club Mascots (Like Palace's Eagles) and The kids that lead out players in big games.
3. Better Injury stuff, like in PES3 where it told you what the injury was (nice touch) and more than just the dumb bandages on the legs, lets have players lying on the floor while play continues, then a medic from the side running on to check on him when the ball goes out of play.
4. Managers on sidelines - that was a good idea, have them running onto the pitch after winning a cup final
5. Fighting (like in NHL)
6. Realistic Transfer fees, i.e Andy Johnson for £20million :D and not these silly points
7. More detailed player creation
8. Option to buy new managers and grounds as club gets better / worse
9. Better comentry (For example, after 4-0 up, during the 4th goal replay they say things like "So Trevor, 120 minutes played and still no goals"
10. design your own balls


I know i had another good idea but i forgot it
 

Stevie Baby

Village Idiot
Oh yea, When a player scores, instead of displaying useless info like their Height, have something like

Andrew Johnson 12' 34' 45' '56 '85
Goals This Season: 65
 

Slaytor

Registered User
i think players should have a temperature when they change from long sleeve to short sleeve, for example some players will change when its slightly cold well others will only change when its freezing or change to short sleeves when its really hot if u get my drift
 

davefitz87

Registered User
stinkface said:
i think players should have a temperature when they change from long sleeve to short sleeve, for example some players will change when its slightly cold well others will only change when its freezing or change to short sleeves when its really hot if u get my drift

you bein serious mate? ther would be absolutley no point in this, it would be a waste of time an money for Konami to even attempt this. anyway there is already the seasonal thing in pes4.
 

Rapter

Registered User
What I do think they should add is a white pitch, like is Russia. Something like the pitch in FIFA 99.

That would be awesome!
 

hordan

Registered User
or when you go into a sliding challenge your player could get injured as well and when you play a through ball through u should be able to run to the ball rather then waiting for it because that can get annoying. Also it should have all the premiership stadiums on it
 

davefitz87

Registered User
One feature from pes4 tht i don't like is when a player is tackled and he doesn't get the free kick he sits on the floor and moans, instead of geting up an carrying on with the game. Yes it is realistic but when that player is a defender it can be crucial!
 

Rapter

Registered User
I think one element from FIFA should be in PES, and that is a button that will cause players to run forward. In PES they go forward only when you pass a ball, if not they can stand there and wait.
 

jamez

Calcio Agriculturus
I'd like to see national anthems for international matches.

I also agree that there should be more than 3 colours in the kit editor. You just can't do a decent Senegal kit otherwise.....
 

Haribo

Super Moderator
jamez said:
I'd like to see national anthems for international matches.

Yeah, I like that idea. It makes gives International and club matches a different theme. They could go past the players as they line-up at a slower speed and play the anthem in the background. There needs to be more atmosphere to make matches feel special.
 

Rapter

Registered User
If you talk about anthems I'll tell you what I really want and is missing.

When I play International cup, or ML, or whatever, I feel the same. I want that when I play a International cup, I want color, songs, I want to feel I'm in the biggest tournament in the world, I want to feel I'm in the festival, I want to win for me flag!!!
 

codename 47

The Next Galactico
jamez said:
I'd like to see national anthems for international matches.

I also agree that there should be more than 3 colours in the kit editor. You just can't do a decent Senegal kit otherwise.....

In EA's world cup 98 game they did have about 5 seconds of each national anthem

one thing i'd like to see is something to be made of big derby and rival matches i.e.maybe it could be something to do with what the commentator says or maybe the AI could be more aggresive in the opening moments of the match when they play rival team
 

Stormrider

Registered User
Rapter said:
I think one element from FIFA should be in PES, and that is a button that will cause players to run forward. In PES they go forward only when you pass a ball, if not they can stand there and wait.

but there's already the Reaction skill and imo should be kept that way. Ai controlled Players with Reaction skill make great runs for me.
 

jamez

Calcio Agriculturus
Rapter said:
If you talk about anthems I'll tell you what I really want and is missing.

When I play International cup, or ML, or whatever, I feel the same. I want that when I play a International cup, I want color, songs, I want to feel I'm in the biggest tournament in the world, I want to feel I'm in the festival, I want to win for me flag!!!

I totally agree. As it is, playing cup tournaments in PES4 doesn't feel particularly special. Theres a lack of ceremony and atmosphere, both at the start and during the game. The crowd is not full of colour, like you get at a world cup - when you play winter games the crowd are all in grey. :(

codename 47 said:
In EA's world cup 98 game they did have about 5 seconds of each national anthem

one thing i'd like to see is something to be made of big derby and rival matches i.e.maybe it could be something to do with what the commentator says or maybe the AI could be more aggresive in the opening moments of the match when they play rival team

EA's NHL games on the PSOne used to play the whole anthem before matches if i remember correctly. The Derby games is a good idea too, surely not hard to include, considering this feature was in FIFA 99. The computer would recognise even the most insignificant derby games, and lineker would build up the match in his comments at the start.
 

Rapter

Registered User
About derbies. In PES3 you could change the crowed reaction, one of them was "Derby". But surly you can make a better atmosphere when you play derbies. Like fights in the stadium.

And when we talk about the crowed, they should have a very big graphical change. They simply look bad.
 

Stormrider

Registered User
Rapter said:
About derbies. In PES3 you could change the crowed reaction, one of them was "Derby". But surly you can make a better atmosphere when you play derbies. Like fights in the stadium.

And when we talk about the crowed, they should have a very big graphical change. They simply look bad.

ya the crowds suckass but I'm afraid if they looked any better things could get laggy.
 
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