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For the first time in 11 years, I WILL be purchasing FIFA

shaun7

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Well in that case all I can suggest is that World Class is maybe too high a level for you? It is possible to take on players and be able to dribble at different speeds if you know what you're doing, I don't know what else I can say. I'm certainly not biased, if it wasn't possible to take players on I'd dislike it too, but I can do it, which leads me to believe you're playing above your ability on World Class if you can't do it.

I made it on professional, won 4-0 and I still couldn't dribble with slow dribbler as defenders will just come and take it. Although dribbling is better than 09 for sure.:)
 

muzza798

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ads, you obiviously must of missed ballacks 30 yarder, benzemar + messi's 1 on 1s (Beautiful animation) and Torres' volly into the top corner all of which looked great. Thre shooting is quality again. Ive said previously Henry is dodgy in pes as he isnt represented very well imo but the gameplay vids you've brought up i admit look bad but seriously there are about 4-5 vids ive seen that look crap and about 30 that look quality and so far you've only brought up incidents in the few crap vids of usless players.

Also in the game where Henry does score that goal the Liverpool team setting was apprently on amature or something low as you can tell when Messi runs all the pool players stop running towards him.
 

S1mon

Registered User
but you cant live in the past. You have to move on from pes 3

Why>? If in my opinion, its the best footie game out, then why should I not still play it. Or should I instead shell out for another repeat of rubbish from EA and Konami, just so I can help fund them in coming back the next year with another repeat of yet more rubbish.
 

hitman88

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honestly all konami need to do is recreate PES6 with enhanced graphics and make the gameplay slightly slower. That was the epic football game.
Fifa 10 has got the pace accurate and the ball physics are fantastic. I like the way the ball doesnt feel like a magnet to the grass and is totally unrestricted in its movement. The only criticism of fifa 10 is the shooting. The shooting in my opinion lets the game down badly, the power bar needs to be more visable for a start.
I hope pes 2010 incorporates ball physics like fifa 10, then it might just be the best football game again
 

Tommy88

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Fifa has a massive delay your through on goal press shoot then 2-3 seconds later, also its stupidly easy to score amazing goals, so they dont feel special...and chips are stupidly easy 2, fifa has no life span never has, games feel like a task after few weeks. Soooo boring.
 

hitman88

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Fifa has a massive delay your through on goal press shoot then 2-3 seconds later, also its stupidly easy to score amazing goals, so they dont feel special...and chips are stupidly easy 2, fifa has no life span never has, games feel like a task after few weeks. Soooo boring.


I felt the chips are difficult, infact I found the whole game hard. I can easily beat the computer on pes on top player, but on fifa I cant barely beat the CPU on beginner.
Maybe against human opponents fifa may be better. the passing in Fifa is crisp and smooth just like real football but in Pes the ball feels heavy and its hard to string together 1 touch passing.
 

S1mon

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honestly all konami need to do is recreate PES6 with enhanced graphics and make the gameplay slightly slower. That was the epic football game.
Fifa 10 has got the pace accurate and the ball physics are fantastic. I like the way the ball doesnt feel like a magnet to the grass and is totally unrestricted in its movement. The only criticism of fifa 10 is the shooting. The shooting in my opinion lets the game down badly, the power bar needs to be more visable for a start.
I hope pes 2010 incorporates ball physics like fifa 10, then it might just be the best football game again

Except for when two players tussle for a ball and it randomly pings off in a silly direction, and when you have a shot, the ball suddenly gains air-flow qualities... oh and the worse the team you select, the more the ball slows down and floats in the air... bit silly really... theres always a ridiculous amount of curl on the ball on fifa as well> As if gail force winds interrupt the path of the ball.
 

hitman88

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Except for when two players tussle for a ball and it randomly pings off in a silly direction, and when you have a shot, the ball suddenly gains air-flow qualities... oh and the worse the team you select, the more the ball slows down and floats in the air... bit silly really... theres always a ridiculous amount of curl on the ball on fifa as well> As if gail force winds interrupt the path of the ball.


Lol i see where you're coming from mate. Some aspects of fifa 10 are absolutely disgraceful and these factors have always made me a PES fan. The curl in fifa is to over the top, suddenly from a simulation it decides to turn into a comical game when shooting and crossing.
 

john4

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dribbling was a problem in 09 as well. all you had to do was call a defender and they will go straight through the attacker and take the ball. they have loadsa skill moves with the right stick but 90% of them are useless. the only one i try and works to beat somebody is a feint to one side and a drag to the other.

It seems they have gone from one extreme to the other, in 09 if you got passed the last man with half the pitch to go you could be John Terry and magical outpace Messi, now if you break free with Messi you cant seem to outpace anybody.

it is a good game and i think i will be buying it for the second year running but sure is still with its problems. and all the build up has stayed the exact same, its just duplicated from 09 minus some terrific new animations and the gameplay (which is still very similar)

still i cant say i dont like it, there seems to be an ignorance on this sight of people valiantly protecting either game and strangely been unable to except any flaw that is pointed out about said game, that seems to dominate all the threads and cause all the flame wars

also, they need to take the toe poke straight to the keeper whilst under pressure out of PES and make players shoot with their weaker foot when thats the only choice, too many times my player hits the ball with his right foot and scores, despite this been impossible to do with the technique he uses from certain angles.
 

02mike

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This is a Pes 2010 discussion board. However Ive just played the demo for Fifa 10 and its very small in terms of improvement compared to 09, saying that 09 was a solid football game.

Cant believe Pique, Busquets, Maxwell (Barca), Sissoko (Juve) Alex (Chelsea), None of these have his correct face respectevly however Dan Sturidge from Chelsea has haha :S

I will be buying Fifa 10 as a stop gap til Pes... then it will be up to Pro to win me over which it has been doing hansomely so far this summer.

Agreed. I actually got bored playing my first game on the demo. They've just tweaked it a bit, but saying that there would be no need for major improvements. PES hasn't actually hit its pinnacle yet, so for that reason PES will ALWAYS be better than fifa.
 

The Liverpool Way

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YOU HAVE TO PLAY BOTH GAMES TO SEE WHICH IS BETTER.

Ever since PES2008 and FIFA08, I have brought both games each year. I got both PES08/FIFA08 and PES09/FIFA09 so I think I can give a good and fair judgement on which is better since I play both and I am a huge fan of both.

FIFA08 was better than PES2008.
FIFA09 was better than PES2009.

FIFA10 vs PES2010? I can't judge yet. I'll play both then i'll judge,

I'm not saying FIFA last 2 games where good, and i'm not saying PES last 2 games where bad. I'm just saying FIFA has been better than PES. PES is still a fantastic game.

I learnt a lesson thinking that PES will always be better after playing PES5 and PES6. I was wrong. FIFA came back and kicked PES ass!
Hopefully all those thinking FIFA10 will be better again will learn the same lesson I learnt.
Basically I hope PES will kick FIFA ass for 2010!

All i'm saying is don't judge between 2 games before both are even out.
And don't judge between 2 games if you only buy/play one.

lol..:)
 

hitman88

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very valid points The Liverpool Way. Who knows what pes 2010 will be like until we play, you can't really judge the gameplay from video footage. However, you can judge the graphics and how fantastic they look!
PES has lost alot of fans over the last 2 years, Konami must have thought that the die hard pes fans will never move over to FIFA, but this is exactly what has happened. I think this is a good thing as it makes Konami work even harder rather than being complacent.
 

Desijut

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Why>? If in my opinion, its the best footie game out, then why should I not still play it. Or should I instead shell out for another repeat of rubbish from EA and Konami, just so I can help fund them in coming back the next year with another repeat of yet more rubbish.

What are you doing on the pes 2010 then? If you want pes 3, play it. If you can live with the shite graphics then go back to it.
 

The Liverpool Way

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very valid points The Liverpool Way. Who knows what pes 2010 will be like until we play, you can't really judge the gameplay from video footage. However, you can judge the graphics and how fantastic they look!
PES has lost alot of fans over the last 2 years, Konami must have thought that the die hard pes fans will never move over to FIFA, but this is exactly what has happened. I think this is a good thing as it makes Konami work even harder rather than being complacent.

Yh PES2010 looks much better for graphics and player faces and kits.
Though more animation should added to make it even better.

I think with the addition of 360 Degree Control, better player faces, Champions League, Eurpora League, better menus, vastly improved Master League and more - PES will be better and maybe 'The King' will return.
 

hitman88

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Yh PES2010 looks much better for graphics and player faces and kits.
Though more animation should added to make it even better.

I think with the addition of 360 Degree Control, better player faces, Champions League, Eurpora League, better menus, vastly improved Master League and more - PES will be better and maybe 'The King' will return.

I hope you're right mate. Since I been playing PES right from PES1, I never thought I would have to buy fifa again. Tbh i think the 360 degree movement is a bit of a gimmick even with fifa i cant really tell the difference.
 

Sho

Marco
i think fifa 10 focused more on gameplay this year tbh, grahpics wish dont see any thing major.
 

The Liverpool Way

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Yea the graphics look the same as 09 in FIFA10. No difference.

I just hope PES has more/better animations and better commentary. Those are 2 things that FIFA has always done better than PES, I would like to see PES doing that sort of stuff better.
 

Baddar

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The main graphical differences in FIFA are that players look slightly thinner now. Maybe too thin. Again, this comes with lots of retarded "players are fat as fuck!!!" comments on the EA boards last time out.

Plus, some faces have been improved and look very good. Again, if you're very pro-PES, you'll dismiss this and say they all look like zombies. Can't really disagree on that one. >_>

The lighting/colouring seems to have improved though. I didn't really see a problem during day matches in 09, but night matches could've looked a little better.
 
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