are you sure i thought Konami was run from oki's bedroom..
:w00t i like it!!!
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are you sure i thought Konami was run from oki's bedroom..
no konami started as some sort of music rental/repair company thing i think
OK so you are normal...like i said before its not an issue of fifa being better than pes... however some things are better.. when a player receives the ball or kicks or shoots or runs with the ball its way way way better on fifa, every angle is covered by different animations, why cant pes do that too..?? the faults that it has can be fixed with time and effort.. but why should they bother everyone buys it anyway..!! thats what making the best game is about and im sorry but Konami is no better than EA when it come to football...
When did I say anything about animations? FIFA does not look as solid as PES. Yes, FIFA has flashy animations but they're all preset. They're not reactive. FIFA, nor PES have it down but that's my point, I don't care about aesthetics.
The player models look far better in PES than FIFA but in terms of flashyness etc, FIFA has always had that over PES. This is why this is a PES fan site. I don't think there's many PES players that don't admire some things that FIFA has, but they're not important to them.
I want the 'game' to improve. I bought FIFA from about 94-97 (which was awful - indoor mode). Then I bought the RTWC, which was good but after that nothing has come close in gameplay terms to PES. I'm agreeing with you on your points but you say you give a balanced view, but you haven't actually made a positive comment on PES. You don't give an objective viewpoint at all. I would say if you want a football simulation game, get FIFA. If you want a football game, get PES. Nothing has changed, PES still has the gameplay edge over FIFA and true PES fans still know that.
If you like FIFA or PES it doesn't matter. FIFA has always been about pick up and play, but PES isnt about that, hence the mass of ridiculous negative comments. If you don't like it, put it back. Personally, whilst I think there's some great ideas with FIFA, the gameplay is crap. PES is far from perfect (even though you're not going to tell me I think it is) but it's still a better game than FIFA
fifa is a simulation well thats a good point isnt it? i dont want to play a shitty arcady version of the beautiful game
kiddie!! ok then daddy ill take my hat off to your "sarcasm"
you just cant seem to accept that fifa has some really good points
Pfff... What you don't seem to understand is that I don't care if FIFA has "good" points, I'm not doubting it does. But it has allot more "bad" points than PES.
I have tried FIFA, and its not for me as I've said many times, but do I go on the EA forums and pit PES against FIFA? No. I'm here discussing PES because I like it. I'm not sucking Konami's ass, nor am I'm sticking up for the game. PES09 has been out for 5 minutes and people are making assumptions already... I gave up years ago crying when a game doesn't have this or doesn't have that. Because I know it doesn't get me anywhere...
Maybe some people here should do the same?
When did I say anything about animations? FIFA does not look as solid as PES. Yes, FIFA has flashy animations but they're all preset. They're not reactive. FIFA, nor PES have it down but that's my point, I don't care about aesthetics.
The player models look far better in PES than FIFA but in terms of flashyness etc, FIFA has always had that over PES. This is why this is a PES fan site. I don't think there's many PES players that don't admire some things that FIFA has, but they're not important to them.
I want the 'game' to improve. I bought FIFA from about 94-97 (which was awful - indoor mode). Then I bought the RTWC, which was good but after that nothing has come close in gameplay terms to PES. I'm agreeing with you on your points but you say you give a balanced view, but you haven't actually made a positive comment on PES. You don't give an objective viewpoint at all. I would say if you want a football simulation game, get FIFA. If you want a football game, get PES. Nothing has changed, PES still has the gameplay edge over FIFA and true PES fans still know that.
If you like FIFA or PES it doesn't matter. FIFA has always been about pick up and play, but PES isnt about that, hence the mass of ridiculous negative comments. If you don't like it, put it back. Personally, whilst I think there's some great ideas with FIFA, the gameplay is crap. PES is far from perfect (even though you're not going to tell me I think it is) but it's still a better game than FIFA
God how many times do we need to tell you..its not about fifa vs pes we are pes fans that are sayin pes is not good enough so we will try fifa....!!!
I wish there was a god to delete these topics
You say its not PES vs FIFA? So why is FIFA brought up each time someone doesn't like something about PES?
The topic says... "I don't like PES'09" Hate it? Well let us know here and only here.
If only people listened and respected that.
But it says if you don't like PES or hate PES. It doesn't say, "Find something bad about PES then compare it to FIFA" does it? Because that's all that's been going on in here....
It may sound stupid, but for me, FIFA just doesn't have that umpf that PES has.
I think the reason people are banging on about FIFA so much is because it's having false accusations thrown at it. I completely understand people dismissing it as still being shit, because for years and years it was. But i challenge anybody who is decent at football games to put in a good week's worth of effort on it and still come away with that opinion. I never thought i'd be playing FIFA, and it kind of saddens me that i am, but it's good so i'll carry on playing it alongside Pro Evo.
hit the spot there...i now have both games and when one pisses me off so much i go to the other..(makes it hard to get great on fiffa but i will get there)
look both games are 'OK', maybe at the start i was being harsh saying pes2009 was shit it has +'s and -'s from last year
wow arsenal were great tonight...!!!!
hit The Spot There...i Now Have Both Games And When One Pisses Me Off So Much I Go To The Other..(makes It Hard To Get Great On Fiffa But I Will Get There)
Look Both Games Are 'ok', Maybe At The Start I Was Being Harsh Saying Pes2009 Was Shit It Has +'s And -'s From Last Year
Wow Arsenal Were Great Tonight...!!!!