"I don't like PES'09" Hate it? Well let us know here and only here.

[byondthought]

Most football games have a few bugs but this stuff is crazy

Player running into the pitch and disappearing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHTgQOMo0d4

Another Keeper bug, loving these 'Superior' animations

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4fRMM34j9c

More superb player animations, this one is just like real life

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k_WL-oSOic

your crazy i bet you just made all that up, things like that dont happen in pes...pes is flawless, go away smelly...!!!

action or belief instantiates by virtue of having or being indicative of low intelligence or poor learning abilities. distinct from irrationality because it denotes an incapability or unwillingness to properly consider the relevant information. It is frequently used as a pejorative, and consequently has a negative connotation.

 

[muzza798]

hahaah what a complete load of pants ,ive given you all day to think of something and still none of you can defend what ive said about fifas defending ,reason ,you know its true

enough said there i think

and if football was as easy to play as fifa with its 4 all scorelines why is the most difficult thing in football actually scoring a goal?

now take into account you have played the PES series since 2000? natually you will find it easy its been nearly 10 years of playing the same game ,thats why fifa seems new and exciting and pes disapointing ,even on manual passing on fifa to compensate for the shocking AI its still average ,you will be bored in 3 months never mind 10 years

pes is disapointing for so many reasons ,the fludity of the game has gone thats the one aspect of the game where fifa kicks its ass and why a lot a ppl beleive fifa to be the better game ,that in it self is a message to seabass and konami even then it wont win fans back because of the shocking online experience these are the two major draw backs of pes

sensible soccer ,lol theres a blast from the past ,now that was a game with fluid game play ,if you could see the tiny players hahaha

do any of you remember match day on the spectrum? ,now that was a decent game for only 48k and it boasted the match of the day theme tune ,couldnt get away with that now

To put it simply, if you have friends and have fifa online then you wont get bored of this game.

 

[dicky_t]

you still have not found me 1 goal ,never mind 3 goals where the players have ran away from the ball player

i never ever said that pes was not bug proof and neither is fifa ,for sure i`ll get bored of this game online i would get infuriated at the lack of AI or FI as i now call it thats fifa inteligence or f**king idiot and why do you all want me to play tricklebeef for ? you think i would get beat and then say wow fifa is the best game if you think that then your seriously still in the playground

i have my opinion ,you have yours but we all know whats best ,thats why your on the PES forum and not fifa`s

nuff said p.s. not smiling laughing at you

 

[dicky_t]

http://www.eafootballworld.com/en_GB/video/3444603

watch the midfielder by the ref ,run stop slide ,now is that me blinking?

 

[Tech_Skill]

you still have not found me 1 goal ,never mind 3 goals where the players have ran away from the ball player

i never ever said that pes was not bug proof and neither is fifa ,for sure i`ll get bored of this game online i would get infuriated at the lack of AI or FI as i now call it thats fifa inteligence or f**king idiot and why do you all want me to play tricklebeef for ? you think i would get beat and then say wow fifa is the best game if you think that then your seriously still in the playground

i have my opinion ,you have yours but we all know whats best ,thats why your on the PES forum and not fifa`s

nuff said p.s. not smiling laughing at you

Thats one hell of an argument there Dicky_T, If OJ Simpson needs another lawyer, i'll recommend you.

Im not posting up any more videos proving that your arguments are moronic and incorrect, the 8/9 i already have are enough. You think PES 2009 has better AI than Fifa, thats fine, you think 8 directions is better than 16, fine, you think CPU automated passing is harder than manual, fine, you can't defend for shit against anyone decent on FIFA so that makes the game bad, fine. lmao.

And yes Dicky there is a bug on fifa where the AI starts making players run away from the ball player, thats why in nearly 200 games on world class its never happened to me once. But you know best, cos you played your mate about 3 times and beat him, and your mate is well good, so that makes you the expert. lol.

"action or belief instantiates by virtue of having or being indicative of low intelligence or poor learning abilities. distinct from irrationality because it denotes an incapability or unwillingness to properly consider the relevant information. It is frequently used as a pejorative, and consequently has a negative connotation."

 

[dicky_t]

Thats one hell of an argument there Dicky_T, If OJ Simpson needs another lawyer, i'll recommend you.

Im not posting up any more videos proving that your arguments are moronic and incorrect, the 8/9 i already have are enough. You think PES 2009 has better AI than Fifa, thats fine, you think 8 directions is better than 16, fine, you think CPU automated passing is harder than manual, fine, you can't defend for shit against anyone decent on FIFA so that makes the game bad, fine. lmao.

And yes Dicky there is a bug on fifa where the AI starts making players run away from the ball player, thats why in nearly 200 games on world class its never happened to me once. But you know best, cos you played your mate about 3 times and beat him, and your mate is well good, so that makes you the expert. lol.

"action or belief instantiates by virtue of having or being indicative of low intelligence or poor learning abilities. distinct from irrationality because it denotes an incapability or unwillingness to properly consider the relevant information. It is frequently used as a pejorative, and consequently has a negative connotation."

i`m not arguing i`m stating a factual evidence of what i have seen, and i never ever stated that 16 way movement was better than 8 or cpu passing is harder than manual ever ,dear oh dear if your going to lie then there is really no point in debating with you

byondbrains stated that i did not know how to play fifa or able to understand the game ,so i asked him to digress his reasons ,he could not

also for the record i claimed the fifa title lacked depth in the game play because of the lack of I in AI ,i also backed up this claim by asking the fifa players to play the passing move ,have any of you actually tried it ? no just continued to argue without any facts

then 3 goals were uploaded by thingyham to which i made a fair comment on the defending and lack of midfeild pressure imposed by the FI ,i have then challenged you to find me 3 goals on PES where the defence is as bad as that on fifa once again you can not ,but now turn to insults ,you think i`m going to get scared and run away

also for the record i said i played a fifa for the first time since 02 one afternoon i gave a fair honest opinion of what i saw and thought ,if that hurts you then please by all means go www.tissuesareforlosers.com ,i was then informed i needed to play manual passing which on my next afternoon on fifa i did ,also for the record i play pes on manual passing ,its not that hard once you get used to it altho pes08 is easier to use than pes 09 once again oppinions may vary ,altho this does slow down any move it doesnt speed up the posistioning of the FI to defend ,thats my oppinion i will stick with it ,and nothing you or anyone else can do will change my mind

p.s. i didnt claim to master fifa either ,just one aspect of the game i found lacked complexity and depth ,but i found that the peice that was missing a major flaw in what would make me put the game down and play something more challenging

 

[Tech_Skill]

i`m not arguing i`m stating a factual evidence of what i have seen, and i never ever stated that 16 way movement was better than 8 or cpu passing is harder than manual ever ,dear oh dear if your going to lie then there is really no point in debating with you

byondbrains stated that i did not know how to play fifa or able to understand the game ,so i asked him to digress his reasons ,he could not

also for the record i claimed the fifa title lacked depth in the game play because of the lack of I in AI ,i also backed up this claim by asking the fifa players to play the passing move ,have any of you actually tried it ? no just continued to argue without any facts

then 3 goals were uploaded by thingyham to which i made a fair comment on the defending and lack of midfeild pressure imposed by the FI ,i have then challenged you to find me 3 goals on PES where the defence is as bad as that on fifa once again you can not ,but now turn to insults ,you think i`m going to get scared and run away

also for the record i said i played a fifa for the first time since 02 one afternoon i gave a fair honest opinion of what i saw and thought ,if that hurts you then please by all means go www.tissuesareforlosers.com ,i was then informed i needed to play manual passing which on my next afternoon on fifa i did ,also for the record i play pes on manual passing ,its not that hard once you get used to it altho pes08 is easier to use than pes 09 once again oppinions may vary ,altho this does slow down any move it doesnt speed up the posistioning of the FI to defend ,thats my oppinion i will stick with it ,and nothing you or anyone else can do will change my mind

p.s. i didnt claim to master fifa either ,just one aspect of the game i found lacked complexity and depth ,but i found that the peice that was missing a major flaw in what would make me put the game down and play something more challenging

*Yawn*

"action or belief instantiates by virtue of having or being indicative of low intelligence or poor learning abilities. distinct from irrationality because it denotes an incapability or unwillingness to properly consider the relevant information. It is frequently used as a pejorative, and consequently has a negative connotation."

 

[sandaweches]

i`m not arguing i`m stating a factual evidence of what i have seen, and i never ever stated that 16 way movement was better than 8 or cpu passing is harder than manual ever ,dear oh dear if your going to lie then there is really no point in debating with you

byondbrains stated that i did not know how to play fifa or able to understand the game ,so i asked him to digress his reasons ,he could not

also for the record i claimed the fifa title lacked depth in the game play because of the lack of I in AI ,i also backed up this claim by asking the fifa players to play the passing move ,have any of you actually tried it ? no just continued to argue without any facts

then 3 goals were uploaded by thingyham to which i made a fair comment on the defending and lack of midfeild pressure imposed by the FI ,i have then challenged you to find me 3 goals on PES where the defence is as bad as that on fifa once again you can not ,but now turn to insults ,you think i`m going to get scared and run away

also for the record i said i played a fifa for the first time since 02 one afternoon i gave a fair honest opinion of what i saw and thought ,if that hurts you then please by all means go www.tissuesareforlosers.com ,i was then informed i needed to play manual passing which on my next afternoon on fifa i did ,also for the record i play pes on manual passing ,its not that hard once you get used to it altho pes08 is easier to use than pes 09 once again oppinions may vary ,altho this does slow down any move it doesnt speed up the posistioning of the FI to defend ,thats my oppinion i will stick with it ,and nothing you or anyone else can do will change my mind

p.s. i didnt claim to master fifa either ,just one aspect of the game i found lacked complexity and depth ,but i found that the peice that was missing a major flaw in what would make me put the game down and play something more challenging

I agree with dicky_t. Some aspects i didn't like about fifa is the delay in command from controller to action. The other thing is lack of significant pressure from AI makes fifa a walk in the park. I guess you can set it to manual or play blindfolded or even with one arm, I'm sure that's gonna make it more challenging.

One last thing, the speed of the shot going to the goal is ridiculously slow. I mean if that happened in reality then the goalie should have ample time to adjust and have an easy save. but on some replays the ball was so slow but even the goalie couldn't catch it. makes scoring annoying in fifa.

Credit is given to fifa for graphics and real-life look. it lacks many things that makes it unplayable for me. (don't tell me put it on manual cause that's something different).

In pes it has it flaws in 8-direction animation, etc., but the shooting is much better than fifa.

it is interesting though that about 3-4 posters are the only ones talking about how great fifa is and how much they love it more than anything else. maybe they should create another thread for why they love fifa, and spare all the useless repetitive comments here.

Just a suggestion, don't get defensive.

 

[Tech_Skill]

I agree with dicky_t. Some aspects i didn't like about fifa is the delay in command from controller to action. The other thing is lack of significant pressure from AI makes fifa a walk in the park. I guess you can set it to manual or play blindfolded or even with one arm, I'm sure that's gonna make it more challenging.

One last thing, the speed of the shot going to the goal is ridiculously slow. I mean if that happened in reality then the goalie should have ample time to adjust and have an easy save. but on some replays the ball was so slow but even the goalie couldn't catch it. makes scoring annoying in fifa.

Credit is given to fifa for graphics and real-life look. it lacks many things that makes it unplayable for me. (don't tell me put it on manual cause that's something different).

In pes it has it flaws in 8-direction animation, etc., but the shooting is much better than fifa.

it is interesting though that about 3-4 posters are the only ones talking about how great fifa is and how much they love it more than anything else. maybe they should create another thread for why they love fifa, and spare all the useless repetitive comments here.

Just a suggestion, don't get defensive.

FIFA a walk in the park? On legendary/World class with shooting off assisted? (lmao)

Yep, your right, that's why sales of PES 2009 are so good, more and more people are flocking to buy it instead of fifa because.......

Oh, hold on a min, FIFA's sales are getting even better because more hardcore pes gamers are switching sides.

So many PES newbies talking the same old shit

"I jus startd playin PES since PES6 an its a well gud game, I luv de 8 diwectional moovement cos its a weal chalenge for me an its much beter tha FIFA cos i cant play a fotbal sim so i hav to stick to arcade games innit"

*Yawn*

"action or belief instantiates by virtue of having or being indicative of low intelligence or poor learning abilities. distinct from irrationality because it denotes an incapability or unwillingness to properly consider the relevant information. It is frequently used as a pejorative, and consequently has a negative connotation."

 

[dan80]

when i play fifa its a good game for a while but it gets boring quite a bit for me i only play it online and pes 2009 just frustrates like hell i feel like smashing my house up coz of it

 

[sandaweches]

tech_skill it can get frustrating sometimes when people don't share your opinion and it seems with fifa it is irritating you. that's fine, just take a walk, take deep breaths and I'm sure you'll be as good as new to enjoy the amazing (but weirdly slow) fifa on manual while blind-folded and physically in a different room. Adds to the excitement when you don't see or hear the game. trying it. very challenging.

just 'cause pes09 is not an good soccer game doesn't mean that fifa is good either. I personally am disappointed because there is no replacement of what used to be winning eleven. pes09 is not as good and so many bugs make it annoying to play. Fifa is just ridiculous gameplay even with manual.

So I'm re-investing my time to play some real-time strategy. i am even considering getting close combat cross of iron (was Russian front) to fill the void that crappy footy games have left.

 

[Tech_Skill]

tech_skill it can get frustrating sometimes when people don't share your opinion and it seems with fifa it is irritating you. that's fine, just take a walk, take deep breaths and I'm sure you'll be as good as new to enjoy the amazing (but weirdly slow) fifa on manual while blind-folded and physically in a different room. Adds to the excitement when you don't see or hear the game. trying it. very challenging.

just 'cause pes09 is not an good soccer game doesn't mean that fifa is good either. I personally am disappointed because there is no replacement of what used to be winning eleven. pes09 is not as good and so many bugs make it annoying to play. Fifa is just ridiculous gameplay even with manual.

So I'm re-investing my time to play some real-time strategy. i am even considering getting close combat cross of iron (was Russian front) to fill the void that crappy footy games have left.

*Yawn*

"action or belief instantiates by virtue of having or being indicative of low intelligence or poor learning abilities. distinct from irrationality because it denotes an incapability or unwillingness to properly consider the relevant information. It is frequently used as a pejorative, and consequently has a negative connotation."

 

[sandaweches]

didn't expect anything less childish. clearly shows the type of players fifa is attracting. such a douchebag.

 

[Tech_Skill]

clearly shows the type of players fifa is attracting. such a douchebag.

Such a gay comment to make, "FIFA attracts bad players"

Moron.

Next time tell your mother and father to freeze their eggs and sperm and use them more wisely.

*Yawn*

"action or belief instantiates by virtue of having or being indicative of low intelligence or poor learning abilities. distinct from irrationality because it denotes an incapability or unwillingness to properly consider the relevant information. It is frequently used as a pejorative, and consequently has a negative connotation."

 

[byondthought]

Tech_skill they just dont understand any of it mate their morons..

They like to have opinions about somthing they know nothing about...

"Ignorance is the state in which a person lacks knowledge, sophistication or intelligence"

it is funny reading their posts though, hehehe

 

[Tech_Skill]

Tech_skill they just dont understand any of it mate their morons..

They like to have opinions about somthing they know nothing about...

"Ignorance is the state in which a person lacks knowledge, sophistication or intelligence"

Thats why I just cant be bothered to argue with them, waste of time, Ive heard all the classics now

"Pes 2009 has better AI"
"Pes 2009 is harder"
"FIFA gets boring, even though it has a better career mode and far more game modes than PES, plus an online mode which actually works

All the way to

"Fifa attracts bad players"

Thats when you know its getting desperate. lol.

Its cool though, ill just keep hammering the manager mode with real teams, real money and next generation gameplay, whilst these noobs play the same old master league that hardly changed since PES 3 having orgasms over 8 directions and buying Ximinez for 850 points.

Lame.

 

[byondthought]

Thats why I just cant be bothered to argue with them, waste of time, Ive heard all the classics now

"Pes 2009 has better AI"
"Pes 2009 is harder"
"FIFA gets boring, even though it has a better career mode and far more game modes than PES, plus an online mode which actually works

All the way to

"Fifa attracts bad players"

Thats when you know its getting desperate. lol.

Its cool though, ill just keep hammering the manager mode with real teams, real money and next generation gameplay, whilst these noobs play the same old master league that hardly changed since PES 3 having orgasms over 8 directions and buying Ximinez for 850 points.

Lame.

LOL, i know its hilarious...its so obvious they dont have a clue, their still compareing them on the same level..!!

Still Fifa does get on my tits when i play it like pes too, i just cant shake it off atm...i wish i had never played pes2009 that much now, it really bugs me when i click out and revert back to pes hands, fifa just dosnt work like that...any tips??

 

[sandaweches]

byondthought and Tech_Skill get a room!

 

[Ravex]

I only say this.

I HATE the AI's slow build up play in BAL.

Some teams pass the ball around the team for literally 15 minutes of in-game time (I play 10 minute matches). And seeing as my team are absolute shitheads when it comes to marking and putting pressure, we don't get the ball that often. I'd say that, in most matches, we have about 35-40% posession.

I estimated that we had about 18% possesion once. We still won with 2-0.

 

[dan80]

never really played BAL but it sounds shit the AI