Konami Vs Ea Have Konami Screwed It This Time

[gaza1725]

Anybody who has read my threads will know how much of a pes lover i am , but after reading all the threads of ppl having problems with the stutter i feel sorry for you all and feel a little let down by konami (Even though im completely stutter free).
But what i am playing at the moment throws a big spanner in the works because im playing fifa 2004 as guess what im enjoying it there are a lot of things different with this version as ive always thought all pre versions where total shite , i can see quite a few things from pes added here and at the end of the day i know this is a pes forum and im one of the biggest fans in the world but ill tell ya what this fifa games getting me hooked i really do like it.
But before you all starting calling me im only being honest at last we have a decent fifa game which is only fair to all the muggs who have wasted they money over the years with ea shite.
And at the end of the day im a football fan who loves watching playing for real , and playing football computer games.
Im not going to say i think its better than pes3 as this would be untrue but its a very enjoyable game with excellent comm and graf's and the game play is getting close to pes.
All im saying for now is the fact this stutter problem as become a big issue i think pes3 has a fight on its hands this year for the number 1 spot .
I think a few ppl may be gonna switch ends

 

[Janus1978]

I don't think some people have a choice but to go to FIFA. When they get another copy it still does the same thing! Stutttttter

Other people who can't decide which to choose will go FIFA because of the stutter bug.

 

[Rors]

i thought Fifa won the battle of sales last year .??

 

[freelancer 2k3]

Erm from what i hear FIFA has it's own problems too. Apparently there's some kind of slowdown..

 

[Zygalski]

How many PES Vs Fifa and Konami Vs EA threads do we need? They are tending to be all about the same few things.
No more new ones from now on please.

fifa 2003 was clearly in the charts for much longer than PES2 so it's safe to say that it won the battle last time. We'll just have to wait and see this time round. If only Nokami could look up 2 words in a dictionary:
1. Licencing (as in FULL).
2. Marketing (pictures of pies won't get you very far).

 

[AndrewC]

I'm the other way around. I used to play FIFA but this year I'll be buying PES3 for the PC. FIFA 2004 looks ok at first, a definite improvement over 2003. But the annoying things still exist... The computer still always goes through the middle, formations remain to static, shots are too powerful etc. Play FIFA for two weeks on the hardest level and I'll guarentuee you'll be just about sick of it. For example, you might be two nil up, when all of a sudden the computer performs two unstoppable through balls with one touch and all of a sudden it's 2-2. This is the only way the computer scores and it does it at it's will. It's just plain crap really.

 

[fordfocus]

fifa 2003 was clearly in the charts for much longer than PES2 so it's safe to say that it won the battle last time.

yes that's true m8. you know why? because a 10 or 12 year old boy can't play WE/PES so he will buy fifa. in order to play WE/PES you need to use your brain much. even my 8 years old cousin can play fifa!! but not WE/PES

 

[McGraw]

I watched a demo of Fifa in Game and it stuttered worse than the PES3 one.

 

[Giggsy11]

pes3 stutter is even bad!!!!

i have the stutter when you score and take goal kicks but its nothing!

 

[liechtenstein jim]

FIFA will always sell more because it is released on more formats(PS2, X-Box,Gamecube, PC, Game Boy, N Gage) while PES is only released on PS2 and PC.

 

[Giggsy11]

FIFA will always sell more because it is released on more formats(PS2, X-Box,Gamecube, PC, Game Boy, N Gage) while PES is only released on PS2 and PC.

and because fifa has the looks.

when someone walks into the shop and they see pes3 and fifa 2004 they will go for fifa cause it LOOKS better.

 

[AndrewC]

FIFA stutters a lot worse than PES on my PC. On my PC PES doesn't stutter at all. The game works perfect for me and I hope it does for others as well... because it would be dissapointing if it didn't sell well for the PC.

 

[Giggsy11]

the PC version always has a danger of stuttering because.

Pc are very unreliable cos they can crash and do all sorts bad things.

i think the console version will be fine.

 

[a121509]

yes that's true m8. you know why? because a 10 or 12 year old boy can't play WE/PES so he will buy fifa. in order to play WE/PES you need to use your brain much. even my 8 years old cousin can play fifa!! but not WE/PES

Owned.

Maybe i'm lucky but i hardly notice the 'stutter' at all now. On the point by Zygalski about licensing/marketing, I couldn't agree more.

Konami know for sure that the PES series will sell loads, and I also know from recent business news that Konami are rivalling nintendo as the #1 games company in Japan. Fact is, Konami CAN afford to a full license for PES, but it's clear to me that they're far too tight to be bothered.

Don't get me wrong, I'd buy PES even if ALL the name were wrong, but at the same time it's very irritating having loads of players called 'Number #' during a game. To me it seems like there are even more in PES 3 than #2, and a lot of these players don't even have the correct commentary names in edit mode.

 

[AndrewC]

Owned.

Maybe i'm lucky but i hardly notice the 'stutter' at all now. On the point by Zygalski about licensing/marketing, I couldn't agree more.

Konami know for sure that the PES series will sell loads, and I also know from recent business news that Konami are rivalling nintendo as the #1 games company in Japan. Fact is, Konami CAN afford to a full license for PES, but it's clear to me that they're far too tight to be bothered.

Don't get me wrong, I'd buy PES even if ALL the name were wrong, but at the same time it's very irritating having loads of players called 'Number #' during a game. To me it seems like there are even more in PES 3 than #2, and a lot of these players don't even have the correct commentary names in edit mode.

I agree with you there. I think PES could be fully licenced, just like how Club Football (a newcomer) is. And it it were fully licenced it could give it that push to make it sell more than FIFA. But I'll no doubt buy it and will just patch it like mad!

 

[gladiator11]

as for the licensing problem, i think it's EA's monopoly agreement with FIFA, where name of the game came from.
with the limited resource, i would hope konami invest it into making a better we8 rathering buying those license from fifa at a hefty price.

 

[Kluiverte]

I think Fifa has nothing to do with Pes, now and never.

 

[a121509]

as for the licensing problem, i think it's EA's monopoly agreement with FIFA, where name of the game came from.
with the limited resource, i would hope konami invest it into making a better we8 rathering buying those license from fifa at a hefty price.

Doesn't This Is Football have a license though? I totally agree that gameplay is priority #1, but i suspect that Konami could easily afford to put out PES with a license without compromising the game.

 

[MatPhillips]

I thought, although it didn't have the longevity, Fifa 2003 was ok, i rented it a few times, and borrowed it of my nephew for a month when he got tired of it, but from all the rubbish i've heard about this "Off the ball control" lark, i thought they had concentrated so much on not actually playing football that the game couldn't possibly be good, but i'll rent it and see.

Pro Evo will always run rings around fifa, i dont see that changing, but fifa always out sells it (damn politics i tells ya) but we should all just enjoy what we want to enjoy. i dont see why we always have to knock fifa, (actually the following statement goes for PES3 aswell )

IF YOU DONT LIKE IT......DONT PLAY IT

Simple!

i dont see the harm in owning both, bit of variety will make both last longer.

CLOSING IN ON THE BIG 1-0-0 baby! (Posts)

 

[Witon]

all knomai need is advertisment, saying how better, and realistic the game play is. Licening is nothing, all we need (knomai) to do is update (release) some personal patch, then we will have everything the same as E.A.

This can be easy for PC , hopefully also for PS when it is connect to the comp.