Letter To Konami

[alonCFC]

Alone CFC> Ball physics, player weight, crushing to each other, net etc.


Question: Are you happy with Scripting of PES or you prefare our compromise?

in some ways scripting is good. it adds in an element of "everything is open". this is exciting and thrilling at first but when it reaches a point when you already know whts going to happen, it takes the fun out of it. for example- in BAL mode, i play as a SS so i dont get to defend in corners. when we are leading 1-0, or any other one goal difference score, i am absolutly sure that we will concede a corner/freekick goal. i know it happens also to us but its frustrating to not have any effect on the score board. im not saying that KONAMI should eliminate scripting totaly but decrease it a lot. this is my opinion atleast.

about physics- i would want to change the whole thing. i oftenly see a player shoot through another players leg or even through the post. this could take a few years untill each player has his own effect on the ball. i just get so annoyed when i see players going through each other like they were alone on the field. also, players clearing a ball with super 180 degrees movement- in real life a player cant manage to change his direction completly and kick the ball straight, which happens a lot in PES. do not expect this to change by 2010 but maybe in 2012 it will be just right.

 

[jenicek68]

They will hear our opinion, they will here what we would like to have there, that is all.. But so far everyone wrote so much staff here but it is lost in milion threads.. I would like to put everything together and send it there..

 

[jenicek68]

AlonCFC: About physics.. I feel that too about clearing a ball with super 180 degrees movement, actualy i dont know why, but way back PES 1 was so good in that.. But it is gone and we want that back..

 

[alonCFC]

another option that i think is great- referees choice. my idea is to have 3-4 different refs that each has a different style:
1- super ref, all choices right and never makes mistakes, collina JR.
2- hard ref- calles for every little foul and gives a penalty for a small shirt pulling in the box and goes hard with cards.
3- fluid ref- lets the game flow, doesnt call for every push like you have now, stopes the game only when neccesary and goes easy with cards.
4- realistic ref- a combination of the tough and easy refs, sometimes makes mistakes and sometimes makes good calles.
i think this would be very good and in ML there will be a random ref each match.
also, i saw somewhee, i think in FIFA, an option to eliminate crds and offsides. this could also be fun for a game with friends.

 

[Dale C.]

'Different type ref's' is a brilliant shout Alon!

 

[jenicek68]

alonCFC> That is really brilliant idea..

 

[alonCFC]

'Different type ref's' is a brilliant shout Alon!

thanks i realy think it could make a PES gathering more fun as you can choose the game style you want. thanks jenicek68!

 

[jenicek68]

alonCFC: That is one of the thing, which can affect the match and dont have to be randomly scripted as it is now..

 

[alonCFC]

alonCFC: That is one of the thing, which can affect the match and dont have to be randomly scripted as it is now..

thats the whole point in it- you decide what to expect, its like toothpaste! :lol:
i heard that line somewhere and i cant remember where...

 

[dan80]

there should be real refs like howard webb highy rated ref and maybe mike riely a total noob. Just quiclkly on the scripting im fed up with controlling the match but every time that board goes up for stoppage time i seem to conceede every match at half time or at the end of the match its just getting really annoying now

 

[Amateur]

They will hear our opinion, they will here what we would like to have there, that is all.. But so far everyone wrote so much staff here but it is lost in milion threads.. I would like to put everything together and send it there..

You want to send a List stating the obvious.. Now Why would we want that??

You put too much importance on Konami reading some "guidelines" that they know all too well by now. As a customer and someone who'd like to see the series on top again, I really do not care if Konami gets to read anything I write.

We shouldn't even be hoping nor asking for Konami to listen. All that I know is that if PES 2010 is the same pre-heated dish, at least I did my part and elaborated on the things that need to improve.

So be it for lack of money, or laziness, or whatever.. they have plenty of feedback and suggestions at their disposal. They should know if they are going in the right direction by simply looking through the forums. How they use that information is up to them.

So honestly, I do not care about sending them one lousy list.. if they want to listen the forums are here. We could send them a list, but for all we know, they might not even bother reading it.

So why so much importance on "I would like to put everything together and send it there".

 

[alonCFC]

You want to send a List stating the obvious.. Now Why would we want that??

You put too much importance on Konami reading some "guidelines" that they know all too well by now. As a customer and someone who'd like to see the series on top again, I really do not care if Konami gets to read anything I write.

We shouldn't even be hoping nor asking for Konami to listen. All that I know is that if PES 2010 is the same pre-heated dish, at least I did my part and elaborated on the things that need to improve.

So be it for lack of money, or laziness, or whatever.. they have plenty of feedback and suggestions at their disposal. They should know if they are going in the right direction by simply looking through the forums. How they use that information is up to them.

So honestly, I do not care about sending them one lousy list.. if they want to listen the forums are here. We could send them a list, but for all we know, they might not even bother reading it.

So why so much importance on "I would like to put everything together and send it there".

the whole thing about this list is that the ideas come to them and not they have to search through hundreads of threads and pages to find them. this way we have more chance of getting heard so why not try?
why shouldnt KONAMI hear us? its like making a new product- you search for what the croud likes. i think they would even thank us for saving them some trouble and maki9ng the whole thing so easier.

 

[jenicek68]

You want to send a List stating the obvious.. Now Why would we want that??

You put too much importance on Konami reading some "guidelines" that they know all too well by now. As a customer and someone who'd like to see the series on top again, I really do not care if Konami gets to read anything I write.

We shouldn't even be hoping nor asking for Konami to listen. All that I know is that if PES 2010 is the same pre-heated dish, at least I did my part and elaborated on the things that need to improve.

So be it for lack of money, or laziness, or whatever.. they have plenty of feedback and suggestions at their disposal. They should know if they are going in the right direction by simply looking through the forums. How they use that information is up to them.

So honestly, I do not care about sending them one lousy list.. if they want to listen the forums are here. We could send them a list, but for all we know, they might not even bother reading it.

So why so much importance on "I would like to put everything together and send it there".

Don't warry.. This letter will not be just plain letter.. I am making analize too, couse my real job is about that.. I am recording what everyona says, making graphs about that, i will give them info, what is the priority they never seen before.. Most important is, that people have to be active.. More of you will write and vote, better.. So far it was only five of them which vote about scripting, but belive me, if there will be 15 - 20 of us, than this letter will have big weight.. Three important thing is to keep it crowded, keep it organised, keep it with possible solutions..


I will give you example with your elaborations.. I came here, i checked your constructive criticism, but i don't wanna read it.. Reason? It is too long, it is only opinion of the one pesron and it is un-organisated.. On the other hand he will come on this thread, he will directly read what we want and go..

 

[alonCFC]

Don't warry.. This letter will not be just plain letter.. I am making analize too, couse my real job is about that.. I am recording what everyona says, making graphs about that, i will give them info, what is the priority they never seen before.. Most important is, that people have to be active.. More of you will write and vote, better.. So far it was only five of them which vote about scripting, but belive me, if there will be 15 - 20 of us, than this letter will have big weight.. Three important thing is to keep it crowded, keep it organised, keep it with possible solutions..

WOW i didnt know you were that serious! thats great i hope more peapole would vote and give more ideas.

 

[jenicek68]

Well, lets not start s....k each others c..k yet.. I am still waiting for some bright ideas about Physics..

 

[alonCFC]

well, i havent got any physics ideas accept the one where players cant go through each other.
i was hinking about something- when your player gets tackeld hard and they start pushing each other and everyone seperates them, you can start control the player and fight like a fighting game. i think it could be very fun knocking out gay ronaldo and hearing all the croud cheer.

 

[jenicek68]

That is cool too.. Conflicts in the match.. But i am not sure, if players should be able to controle that.. It can ruin whole footy experience.. But imagine, you will be in the final of the world cup and Zidane will make something, what he did in final.. ) But i think, that it should not be controled by people..

 

[alonCFC]

you know, iwas not serious...

 

[jenicek68]

Its there..

 

[byondthought]

Don't warry.. This letter will not be just plain letter.. I am making analize too, couse my real job is about that.. I am recording what everyona says, making graphs about that, i will give them info, what is the priority they never seen before.. Most important is, that people have to be active.. More of you will write and vote, better.. So far it was only five of them which vote about scripting, but belive me, if there will be 15 - 20 of us, than this letter will have big weight.. Three important thing is to keep it crowded, keep it organised, keep it with possible solutions..


I will give you example with your elaborations.. I came here, i checked your constructive criticism, but i don't wanna read it.. Reason? It is too long, it is only opinion of the one pesron and it is un-organisated.. On the other hand he will come on this thread, he will directly read what we want and go..

just remember it will be too late for 2010 now and that Konami need to understand that its not just from 1 crazy fan...make them understand that its from a high percentage of its European and American customers..!!!

Title a petition style section saying "we arnt buying unless" and dont just send it to the developers, make sure market research and managment teams get hold of it too..!! you need to slap a sleeping giant to wake him up.!!