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Lionel Messi stas are a joke!

Cyclope

Registered User
AndyK said:
Messi is not super quick... those stats are about right.

Hes only 18..
I'm still laughing at you. I think you never watched him play, I just hope you had the opportunity to watch Messi in the Champions League game at Stamford Bridge.
 

watty1877

1st Team Squad Member
hwangeruk said:
I am not sure I can hang out in a forum with someone like Watty the mentalist Wolves pundit, and I quote: :)

Youre calling me a telepathic pundit??? Im not sure if thats an insult or not. Or is it simply because im a Wolves fan?


hwangeruk said:
Rooney is superb. The all round player. You get one thing right :/

Why thank you.


hwangeruk said:
Ronaldinho no good in the middle? I wonder why Rikjard stuck him in the middle tonight against Chelsea.

Ronaldinho is an attacking midfielder, youre confusing playing centrally in the attacking third to playing in central midfield. So, what youre telling me is... you can ask Ronaldinho to sit in the centre of midfield to win balls and defend? I think not.


hwangeruk said:
Messi is unbelievable. Tonight showed that against Chelsea. He outpaced Del Horno like he wasn't there, he even outran Roben for christs sakes, you gotta be smoking crack if he isn't top ranking for speed.

Huh?!?! When did i mention Messi's speed? I already said Messi is a good player, i never disputed that. Infact i believe i said he is a GREAT player. But all he confirmed to me last night, is that he is a cheat.


hwangeruk said:
<b>Messi/Eto'o/Ronaldinho, compare that to Morientes/Crouch/Fowler/Cisse.
Drogba/Roben/Cole.
It aint rocket science is it?</b>

Ok, when did Morientes/Crouch/Fowler/Cisse/Drogba/Roben/Cole enter the discussion? Although, for the record, id take Joe Cole over Messi anyday. Youre just trying to find things to say arent you?

Its ok...

*places a finger on your lips*

You dont need to say anymore


hwangeruk said:
Messi stats are silly low. period.

I also mentioned that i had altered his stats. You really need to read peoples posts properly before ya go off on one.

Oh and you dont want to be in the same forum as me? Im hurt, you dont even know me :(
 

watty1877

1st Team Squad Member
Neri Cardozo, Boca and Argentina.

 

Usul

Registered User
I have started a new Master League a couple of days ago and Messi performs surprisingly well even with these seemingly low abilities and his growth rate isnt bad at all.
Just because he made the most out of being steamrolled by Del Horno doesn't make him a cheat.
watty1877 said:
Ronaldinho is an attacking midfielder, youre confusing playing centrally in the attacking third to playing in central midfield. So, what youre telling me is... you can ask Ronaldinho to sit in the centre of midfield to win balls and defend? I think not.
I don't want to start a lenghty and painful discussion in here about Ronaldinho but how dare you even imply that he isnt a great all-round midfielder? The answer to your question is yes. You can stick him anywhere in midfield and he will intercept passes and defend decently. I have watched every Barcelona game for many years and never missed a single match and i can assure you this man is a very well rounded player. Very few players can hold the ball under pressure like he does and that is a fact. He aint no Makele, that's for sure, but neither is your beloved Rooney. Ronaldinho could perform wonderfully anywhere in midfield but using him as a DMF would not only be silly it would be an utter waste.

Someone also said something about Totti not being in a great club. First i would like to say that sometimes i dislike his attitude but he is one hell of a an attacking midfielder.
Roma is a very good and respectable club and the reason Totti is still a part of it is because he has been playing in Roma since he was a little one. He loves the club and simply knows the meaning of loyalty, which is something that is hard to find these days.
He has gotten plenty of offers but everyone knows that he will never play for another side so i suppose other clubs just don't bother anymore.

I respect him for that.
 

Slash

Bombay Shitehawk
Captian Marvel said:
Well thats your opinion. If he was that good in real life, how come he has never won any major tophies with Roma? Surely a player of that unrivaled ability would carry a team like that to Champions League glory and likewise with Italy.

Going by this logic, Rooney's stats in the game are far too good :mellow:
You also may remember the intro video for PES4 showing a blue shirted no.10 curling a loop shot into the top near corner from the edge of the box. That was an actual goal Totti scored for Roma in Serie A... couldn't believe it when I saw him pull it off. I've never liked him because he can be a dirty, diving, spitting cheat every now and then, but he is definitely very talented in all areas of play in midfield and upfront. Totti never had the same form with Italy as with Roma and IMO Italy certainly shouldn't have to depend on him to carry them.. there are more good, consistant players in the team.

Messi's stats are a bit low - he's definitely much better than the game suggests
 

Bite.Me

Registered User
Hey guys I was thinking about correcting Messi's stats can anyone post your moded stats for him?
TY
 

watty1877

1st Team Squad Member
Muad'Dib said:
I don't want to start a lenghty and painful discussion in here about Ronaldinho but how dare you even imply that he isnt a great all-round midfielder? The answer to your question is yes. You can stick him anywhere in midfield and he will intercept passes and defend decently. I have watched every Barcelona game for many years and never missed a single match and i can assure you this man is a very well rounded player. Very few players can hold the ball under pressure like he does and that is a fact. He aint no Makele, that's for sure, but neither is your beloved Rooney. Ronaldinho could perform wonderfully anywhere in midfield but using him as a DMF would not only be silly it would be an utter waste.

Well firstly, i dare, because its how i see it...

Yeah you make valid points mate, and im not denying how good Ronaldinho is. I watch a lot of Barca games myself, obviously only the ones i can get to see. So im not just talking out of my hat. Yeah i agree its a waste to play him in certain areas, but sometimes in a game, its needed. The whole thing im trying to get across, is on current form... Rooney is a better alround player. Ok, next season it might change.

And im not a crazed fan of Rooney's at all, its just my view on the subject. Im not sure why people get so butt hurt when others state their opinions.
 

Disco Pants

Too Busy Working to Post
Your not allowed opinionson here, IMO oh wait........ :)

I think I have fucked messi's stats up tho, I have put his skill at 95 - 95. I was going to go low and let him build up.
 

Ronaldo_is_fat

Registered User
Wow, did he really out ran Robben?

Messi is the man of the match in the game, and is the best attacking player to play on that lame pitch. He outshowned Robben and Joe Cole with his great control. He has the potential and environment to be a better player than Rooney in the future.
 

Cyclope

Registered User
Muad'Dib said:
I have started a new Master League a couple of days ago and Messi performs surprisingly well even with these seemingly low abilities and his growth rate isnt bad at all.

True, me too I didn't change his stats, I'm in my second season and he performs so well, it's unbelievable. I changed his stats in the edit mode but the stats I changed do not reflect on my ML, maybe it's because I changed his stats after I started my ML... :(
 

Usul

Registered User
watty1877 said:
Well firstly, i dare, because its how i see it...

Yeah you make valid points mate, and im not denying how good Ronaldinho is. I watch a lot of Barca games myself, obviously only the ones i can get to see. So im not just talking out of my hat. Yeah i agree its a waste to play him in certain areas, but sometimes in a game, its needed. The whole thing im trying to get across, is on current form... Rooney is a better alround player. Ok, next season it might change.

And im not a crazed fan of Rooney's at all, its just my view on the subject. Im not sure why people get so butt hurt when others state their opinions.
I didn't mean for my comment to come across as defensive or agressive in any way.

Rooney better than Ronaldinho, you say? I think not.

Cyclope said:
True, me too I didn't change his stats, I'm in my second season and he performs so well, it's unbelievable. I changed his stats in the edit mode but the stats I changed do not reflect on my ML, maybe it's because I changed his stats after I started my ML... :(
Nope. As far as i know all players retain their default abilities in Master League.
 

Joel

Administrator
Staff member
Ronaldo_is_fat said:
Wow, did he really out ran Robben?

Messi is the man of the match in the game, and is the best attacking player to play on that lame pitch. He outshowned Robben and Joe Cole with his great control. He has the potential and environment to be a better player than Rooney in the future.

How could he out play Joe Cole, when J.Cole only got about 38 minutes, because the 'referee' sent off Del Horno and then we had to reshuffle.
 

dannyd99

New Member
messi's stats r a joke he showed against chelsea that he is 1 of de best up n comin playas n he was well quik so has ne1 got new and imrpoved stats for im cos he is miles betta dan wt dey r atm
 
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