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How can you say Fifa 08 is like PES6 on first inspection?
It is NOTHING like it.
Never have liked any shooters based on UNREAL TOURNAMENT engines.....mostly cos they are a pile of doghsit.
^^ Agreed.
Mat everyone one of your comments I have seen are dogshit.
Since PES3, there has not been a single PES game that has not had certain unwanted features in it that have served to drive gamers fucking mental.
The latest offering is no different. Although the game is a bit of a let down to many, it cannot be denied that PES 2008 is still an excellent game. However, in addition to the usual menu options (or lack off) issues there are also the usual gameplay issues. This time round they are:
Ease of Dribbling........(why bother passing when u can just run straight through)
Ease of Freekicks (concede one against CPU and they probably will score)
Keeper's spilling balls (gtf outta my face with this shit....this sucks most of all)
And this is on top of all the usual CPU scripting of games (including stoppage time remaining most likely time to score) and the same old defensive AI flaws which means 2 player games inevitably degenerate into exploit goal excercises.
Will Seabass ever get it right or does he do these things on purpose to ensure addicted fans of the series are ever eagerly awaiting next 'super improved' release?
I'm sorry but weren't you that bloke that started yapping away about the wonder that is FIFA? if so, how the hell can you come up with this crap? You were commenting on PES players not giving FIFA a try and now this is the best you can come up with on PES? Jeez.
first of all there IS a difference between taking on some crappy defender with C.Ronaldo or taking on Nesta with some average player. havent seen one big mistake by a keeper in 30 hours of playing and the FK story is another thing I can't agree on...
So it is not possible to see the pro's and cons of both titles and recognise the advantages they have over each other..
FANBOY ALERT!!
Yes, there is a difference allright....unless the AI just decides to open up and lay on red carpet treatment anyways.
FANBOY ALERT!!
You haven't seen the keeper make a mistake??? Are you playing the same fucking game as everyone else?
Well I do agree that BF2 rocks....but surely you can appreciate a great singleplayer game with a great atmosphere?
I've seen them let their guard down a bit guarding the short corner and get surprised by 85+ shot power. I've also seen a keeper let the ball run through their legs but didn't that happen to Werder Bremen keeper (if i'm not mistaken) last week and three weeks ago in CL? Nothing that's not realistic there... And I've never said there are no advantages with FIFA, I'm just giving my opinion and disagreeing with your statements... Fanboy alert? really?
MatTheCat: Just so you know, on every post you have made in this thread, i couldn't have agreed more. and even tho you get a lot of flame, i think most people do=). But maybe it's more the kind of people who have learned that it is about impossible to get some* of the complete idiots on forums like these, to understand jack shit.
I wouldn't even have been here to make a post, if it weren't for the fact that pes2008 on xbox live is so laggy, that konami really should be ashamed.
Wich by the way brings me back to topic .. I have just moved away from where i grew up, and all my friends that were good in pes, and seeing that the online feature sucks so hard it hurts, yes, pes2008 is a pile of dogshit for me, until the day i can play online, without lagging so much that my players take 1.5second to respond. (btw, can anyone confirm the fact that if i buy it for PC tomorrow, the lag will be at least a little bit better?).
And yeah .. maybe you find boishock fun to play .. i find tetris fun to play, and i find hook a loogie fun to play.
That doesn't change the fact that UT engine is a pile of dogshit.
At last, someone who sees the light!
Last year it took them weeks to get the online caper sorted out and even when it was running 'good' it would stall and stutter all over the shop (the server, not so much the games unless u were playing somebody with shit connection).