PS3: The Future of PES (wishlist)

[chrisius]

PS3: The Future of WE/PES (wishlist)

(Probably my first detailed thread.)

This is a thread about what would be awesome to see in the future of Pro Evolution Soccer games on the PS3 and all next-gen. Feel free to comment and add to the list, if you can. Take your time.
*Obviuosly updating graphics is already assumed.

Animation
- Players interract and swap shirts at end of games
- Visible linesmen and other officials
- Visible managers, coaches, and substitutes bench on the sideline - player warming up, team bench goes crazy when you score a goal
- Visible shirt tugging in attacker and defender battles
- Improved crowd - 3D crowd with updated graphics and improved reactions
- Always improve player/ball physics and AI
- Improved trophy winning celebrations

Match Mode
- Improved penalty kicks - incorporate power bar and analogue control for more control and allow cheeky chips down the middle etc.
- Save full match highlights - create highlight reels
- Save unfinished matches (e.g. at half time) and reload later to finish it.
- Longer replays to allow replay of build up - Match Length replays
- Play as referee and other officials (could be taken online)
- Non-stop play/animation - no black screens
- Crowd chants
- Better commentating - choose commentators from a list - commentators recall events form the past in a season or cup - Better dialogue between commentators
- Weather conditions affect gameplay, players and movement of ball
- Better match rating system, ongoing through the match not just at full time
- Diving - If worked well
- Choose player reactions after a foul/decision - e.g. walk away, push, argue, appeal
- Show speed of a shot, like in tennis
- Ball boys
- Power bar on goal kicks - like a free kick
- Free Kicks - 360 degree turning
- Hear player shouts on the pitch - e.g. "Send me!", "Close him down!"

Features
- Unlimited saving space - allowing use of whole harddrive
- Custom Soundtracks for menu screens
- Bring scenario mode back from the ISS Deluxe days

Master League
- Goal of the Month/Season - Highlights and money/stats reward for winner
- Multiplayer Master League - i.e. 2 or more players can play in 1 master league each controlling their own team
- Turn off classic players in transfer market
- Name generation of retired players
- More Leagues, Divisions, Cups, Competitions
- International duty highlights or play as fix on international duty, and players stats increase while on duty or comeback with injury for example.
- Integrate international competitions in master league
- Deeper Master league - transfer market, keep players happy, deeper training, serious injuries with details, available manager jobs
- Commentators recall invents
- Resignation instead of GAME OVER - therefore have to look for new job
- End of season awards
- Records of stats such as goal keeper saves, total assists, etc.
- Player scouts
- Youth Team
- In depth transfer market and speculation
- Complain about inconsistent referees
- News - Headlines
- Fans/Press react to games, signings, success and failures
- Pre/Post match interview

Edit Mode
- Create-A-Stadium - then assign to a team
- Create-A-Team - then add it to a league or division
- Create-A-League/Division - then add it to master league
- Create-A-Cup - then add to a competition
- Create-A-Ball - balls have diffrent weights/dynamics
- Create-A-Boot - have stats so boots add/minus bonus stats to player
- Next-gen eyetoy face and body mapping
- Create-A-Manager
- More celebrations
- More Attributes and Stars

Unlockables (some from Edit mode could be in here to unlock)
- All Star Teams
- Leagues/Divisions
- 7 Star. (lol joke)
- Female football players (could be suits in edit mode)
- New Balls
- New Boots
- 5-a-side mode
- Beach Football
- Indoor matches
- More Classic Teams - Including classic club teams

Online
- Share replays/highlight reels with friends and other users
- Online content and updates to player transfers and licences
- Online Master League
- 11 on 11 fix online master league - Clans as created teams - edit points awarded for wins to add to players attributes, stadium funds, transfer funds, etc.
- Online commentators using headsets
- Play online with your master league team
- Online 5-a-side

Other
- All national teams
- All club teams
- Real Referees
- Lower league divisions in all leagues i.e. The Championship, Serie B etc.

Am I expecting too much, I don' think I am O, last thing, Konami & Sports Interactive join forces

 

[Lörd TH]

some of that stuff is in the 360 version
but some other things would be a good idea and in international matches and cup finals the players walk out with kids

 

[chrisius]

Thats an awesome idea thierryhenry14, i'd probably watch the entrance for important matches more often then with the added realism

 

[pro evo 11]

some of that stuff is in the 360 version
but some other things would be a good idea and in international matches and cup finals the players walk out with kids

which ones are alresdy in the 360 version please

ps some great ideas there chrisisus

 

[chrisius]

I think its things like linesman, 3d crowds and graphics. Just things like that i think

 

[pro evo 11]

thanks some great ideas there Chrisius i hope we see some in pes 7

 

[Lörd TH]

yeah but no doubt that some more stuff will change for the 360 version by the 20th of october

 

[Chuck Morris]

I love the idea of playing as the ref. It'd be great if 2 of your mates where playing against each other and you where the official, you could give proper dodgy decisions against one of them and give dubious penalties aswell. I'd love this to be in the next gen PES.

 

[chrisius]

Thanks. Player ref, Haha, I was thinkin the same thing, that would be funny giving random decisions

 

[red]

Nice wish list, I do feel that some of these are quite impossible though, for eg, goal of the month, How would a CPU rate a goal, we do it (humans) based largely on emotion and not the technical aspects, plus it would mean that every game would have to be played and goals recorded, which if more teams and bigger leagues were introduced then you would definitely get some black screens. but who nows what the future will bring. Maybe if you can share your goal replays (as suggested) than they are all date stamped and could be played and rated from the server we could have a online goal of the week.

I am looking forward to the 11v11, I think the game should be developed around this, as i have said in another thread, the end of match ratings should be averaged and recorded and all the individual game data also shown before games, so if you have a guy with an average of 400m dribbiling you know he is a greedy bas. amd would want to dribble from box to box etc. dont pick him you wont get the ball, but then again, if hes got an average of 3 assists, stick him on the wing!

I forgot to mention, I would like to see the master league online, so you buy and sell players to other human controlled teams, compete for the best scouts etc. hopefully any lag issues would be resolved so would not be a problem. you arrange the matches with you opponents in advance, if you dont show the cpu takes control if you do not show for three consecitive(?) dates (not three matches, could be same date afterall) the team is managerless and another player can step in and take control.

 

[Magono]

Great idea for a thread sir!

I am a BIG Master League fan and your ideas are truly next-gen! The whole incorporation of PES Management would be something i would love to see. Especially as it is so rewarding to see your young players develop. Great thread chrisius!

 

[kez2cool]

(Probably my first detailed thread.)

This is a thread about what would be awesome to see in the future of Pro Evolution Soccer games on the PS3 and all next-gen. Feel free to comment and add to the list, if you can. Take your time.
*Obviuosly updating graphics is already assumed.

Animation
- Players interract and swap shirts at end of games
- Visible linesmen and other officials
- Visible managers, coaches, and substitutes bench on the sideline - player warming up, team bench goes crazy when you score a goal
- Visible shirt tugging in attacker and defender battles
- Improved crowd - 3D crowd with updated graphics and improved reactions
- Always improve player/ball physics and AI
- Improved trophy winning celebrations

Match Mode
- Improved penalty kicks - incorporate power bar and analogue control for more control and allow cheeky chips down the middle etc.
- Save full match highlights - create highlight reels
- Save unfinished matches (e.g. at half time) and reload later to finish it.
- Longer replays to allow replay of build up - Match Length replays
- Play as referee and other officials (could be taken online)
- Non-stop play/animation - no black screens
- Crowd chants
- Better commentating - choose commentators from a list - commentators recall events form the past in a season or cup - Better dialogue between commentators
- Weather conditions affect gameplay, players and movement of ball
- Better match rating system, ongoing through the match not just at full time
- Diving - If worked well
- Choose player reactions after a foul/decision - e.g. walk away, push, argue, appeal
- Show speed of a shot, like in tennis
- Ball boys
- Power bar on goal kicks - like a free kick
- Free Kicks - 360 degree turning
- Hear player shouts on the pitch - e.g. "Send me!", "Close him down!"

Features
- Unlimited saving space - allowing use of whole harddrive
- Custom Soundtracks for menu screens
- Bring scenario mode back from the ISS Deluxe days

Master League
- Goal of the Month/Season - Highlights and money/stats reward for winner
- Multiplayer Master League - i.e. 2 or more players can play in 1 master league each controlling their own team
- Turn off classic players in transfer market
- Name generation of retired players
- More Leagues, Divisions, Cups, Competitions
- International duty highlights or play as fix on international duty, and players stats increase while on duty or comeback with injury for example.
- Integrate international competitions in master league
- Deeper Master league - transfer market, keep players happy, deeper training, serious injuries with details, available manager jobs
- Commentators recall invents
- Resignation instead of GAME OVER - therefore have to look for new job
- End of season awards
- Records of stats such as goal keeper saves, total assists, etc.
- Player scouts
- Youth Team
- In depth transfer market and speculation
- Complain about inconsistent referees
- News - Headlines
- Fans/Press react to games, signings, success and failures
- Pre/Post match interview

Edit Mode
- Create-A-Stadium - then assign to a team
- Create-A-Team - then add it to a league or division
- Create-A-League/Division - then add it to master league
- Create-A-Cup - then add to a competition
- Create-A-Ball - balls have diffrent weights/dynamics
- Create-A-Boot - have stats so boots add/minus bonus stats to player
- Next-gen eyetoy face and body mapping
- Create-A-Manager
- More celebrations
- More Attributes and Stars

Unlockables (some from Edit mode could be in here to unlock)
- All Star Teams
- Leagues/Divisions
- 7 Star. (lol joke)
- Female football players (could be suits in edit mode)
- New Balls
- New Boots
- 5-a-side mode
- Beach Football
- Indoor matches
- More Classic Teams - Including classic club teams

Online
- Share replays/highlight reels with friends and other users
- Online content and updates to player transfers and licences
- Online Master League
- 11 on 11 fix online master league - Clans as created teams - edit points awarded for wins to add to players attributes, stadium funds, transfer funds, etc.
- Online commentators using headsets
- Play online with your master league team
- Online 5-a-side

Other
- All national teams
- All club teams
- Real Referees
- Lower league divisions in all leagues i.e. The Championship, Serie B etc.

Am I expecting too much, I don' think I am O, last thing, Konami & Sports Interactive join forces

I like all/most of your ideas there. Practical and achieveable.

I hope most of these things could happen in the future.

 

[chrisius]

Nice wish list, I do feel that some of these are quite impossible though, for eg, goal of the month, How would a CPU rate a goal, we do it (humans) based largely on emotion and not the technical aspects, plus it would mean that every game would have to be played and goals recorded, which if more teams and bigger leagues were introduced then you would definitely get some black screens. but who nows what the future will bring. Maybe if you can share your goal replays (as suggested) than they are all date stamped and could be played and rated from the server we could have a online goal of the week.

I am looking forward to the 11v11, I think the game should be developed around this, as i have said in another thread, the end of match ratings should be averaged and recorded and all the individual game data also shown before games, so if you have a guy with an average of 400m dribbiling you know he is a greedy bas. amd would want to dribble from box to box etc. dont pick him you wont get the ball, but then again, if hes got an average of 3 assists, stick him on the wing!

I forgot to mention, I would like to see the master league online, so you buy and sell players to other human controlled teams, compete for the best scouts etc. hopefully any lag issues would be resolved so would not be a problem. you arrange the matches with you opponents in advance, if you dont show the cpu takes control if you do not show for three consecitive(?) dates (not three matches, could be same date afterall) the team is managerless and another player can step in and take control.

nice ideas red, i was thinking along the same lines. Can't wait when this becomes a reality because we all know this is one of seabass's big dreams. Yeah Pro Evo 11, maybe even as close as PES7!

 

[chrisius]

Thanks for your show of appreciation kez2cool and Magono. Yeah i've played PESM and some ideas from there well incorporated into the PES series like simple things such as player scouts, €'s and £'s as currency choices, end of seasons awards, and managers would ever so slightly keep improving the PES series.

 

[haka09]

footballer of the year on the master league
Different monetary income for clubs of different sizes ( eg. Man utd earns more with bigger stadium as compared to Fulham)
Upgradable stadiums - Add more seats as ur club grow

 

[sb3557]

All fans run onto the pitch at the end of the game and ALL do the Crouch robotic dance. Let's see what the PS3 is really capable of! we've all seen the rubber ducky demo - now lets see a pitch full of fans all doing the Crouch dance!!

 

[Trev]

LOL, all usless now as the PS3 won't have PES until next year at the earlyist!

 

[H_A_N_S_E_N]

@Chrisius

Why are picking only the PS3 for the future of PES??

Xbox 360 and PS3 are going to be very similar i terms of graphics and power, so those things could just as well be seen in a future Xbox 360 release!

I'd like to se things like:

- Mud and grass on the shirts + shirts get torn apart ect.
- Players spitting, bleeding, running their fingers through their hair
- Players showing that it really hurts to get hit by the ball
- The condition of the pitch will get bad later on in the game
- Players warming up on the sidelines, ballboys, crowd throwing stuff on the pitch
- More signature moves, and varities of dribbling, different in certain situations ect.
- And Licences, original shirts, badgets ect.
- 11 vs. 11 online match
- Online season/ML mode

Just to mention a few!

 

[paoan013]

3rd kits would be nice! It's not difficult to do, even for PES6!

 

[Ko_nami]

I agree with H_A_N_S_E_N and paoan013.

The Xbox 360 and PS3 will be very similar in terms of processing power and graphics.

And yeah, I'd like to see a third kit for every team. Could make for more kit combinations against teams with awkward colours.

You would've thought they'd be able to do this for the next-gen versions as the disc capacity has doubled on the 360. And the disc capacity on the PS3 will have 5 times the capacity of a conventional PS2 disc.