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What can be said about PES08 that hasn't already been said?? Is it the same old PES? No, definitely not. Is it a next generation game?? It doesn't feels like it. Is it bad?? Of course not, that would be too harsh. So why so disappointing??!!
Well, personally I wasn't greatly disappointed because I had read all the critics about PES08. So I was expecting a disappointing game, and yeah it haves some major issues, but it still is the best football game out there -however- the MOST disappointing fact is that I still see the exact same SKILLS that PES had 4 years ago!!
Pass Accuracy
Pass Speed
Dribble Accuracy
Dribble Speed
Attack
Defense
Shot Accuracy
Shot Technique
I mean, How generic is that!! So much talk about the PS3, so much unquestionable potential - and still both EA Sports and Konami can only manage to make touched up versions of past games!! - That's what makes PES dissapointing to my eyes.
For one I was expecting the old - Shot Accuracy and Shot Technique to be updated. I mean, what about Long Range Shot Accuracy?? What covers that?? In my opinion is way too generic to just have Shot Accuracy and Shooting Technique - There are plenty of shooting techniques; Chip Shot, Instep drive, Placed Shot, etc, etc.. Up till date - PES still has no SKILL to cover shoots such as Chip Shots or Long Range Shots.
And what about Dribbling!! - just Dribble Accuracy and Dribble Speed to cover for Dribbling!! Too generic. What about players who almost never perform a step-over?? Players such as Kaka, Riquelme, Raul, Pirlo, etc, etc.. There must be a difference in the dribbling styles of the players - in order to establish a difference between tricksters such as Cristiano Ronaldo or Luis Figo -and- less showy players like Kaka and Riquelme. For example, Kaka should not perform a step-over by tapping the L1 Button - he should perform another trick, but definitely not a step-over.
More of the same with passing - Pass Accuracy and Pass Speed. I mean, this is football!! any decent Football fan knows that "Pass and Movement" are fundamental to the beautiful game. I still don't see the difference between players with great Tactical Awareness - that is great technical movement such as Juan Roman Riquelme -and- players who don't have or don't rely on good tactical awareness such as Ronaldinho.
That is a fundamental fact of Football - and it is something that PES currently lacks. That Tactical Awareness Skill is what differentiates players such as Riquelme, Zidane, Valderrama, or Pirlo -from- players such as Henry, Ronaldinho, Joaquin, Robben, or Shauwn Wright Phillips.
I think some simple skill additions would solve that problem, for example adding a few New Skills such as;
Short Ground Pass,
Short Lobbed Pass,
Long Ground Pass,
Long Lobbed Pass,
Through Ball Technique,
and maybe a Passing Technique.
Those are only 6 Skills, and I'm sure they would make a HUGE difference to the game play of the game - for one, players would be further differentiated. For example David Beckham has a great Long Lobbed Pass Skill, but (as with most English players) his ground passes are not that accurate or incisive. On the other hand, the former Colombian Playmaker Carlos Valderrama was not The best at Lobbed Passes -but- his Groung Passes, be it short or long, were flawless. Valderrama's Through Pass Technique?? El Pibe could perform passes you didn't thought possible.
With only 6 new skills, Konami could manage to establish a new-found difference between players such as David Beckham (or Juninho Pernambucanon) and Juan Roman Riquelme (or Carlos Valderrama, Andrea Pirlo, etc, ect). The game play and reality of the game would be further improved with only 6 New Skills - for a fact there would be no more playmaking with Beckham. David Beckham would be David Beckham - who is a Side Midfielder. And Riquelme, Guti, Diego, etc, etc.. - would be Playmakers.
Another Fundamental Skill that PES currently lacks is - Work Rate; such skill could determine how much running a player does Off-The-Ball, and by off-the-ball I mean automatic - performed by the computer. For example, a player such as Gennaro Gattuso would have a very high Work Rate Skill -while on the other hand- Carlos Valderrama would have a low Work Rate skill.
Konami needs to identify this fundamental abilities that differentiate players because those ''fundamental skills'' - are what makes Football a team game; Zidane creates and distributes the ball - Makelele does the off-the-ball work in order to win the ball back - Vieira is the all-around great player - Thierry Henry scores the goals - Thuram defends the goal poasts. And viceversa - Zidane cannot play Defensive Midfielder because he doesn't haves the skill required to do so effectively - Makelele cannot play as Playmaker - Vieira could pretty much play any position in the midfield - etc,etc..
Different positions require different skills and abilities - I shouldn't be able to control a match 'a-lo-Riquelme' with a player like David Beckham. And I shouldn't be able to tackle just as effectively with Riquelme or Maldini.
That is the main problem with the current PES -too generical in too many fundamental aspects of Football- and knowing how good PES08 actually is, I know for a fact that PES can be 3 times better. Imagine players with different types of movements Off-The-Ball, because it is a well known fact that while some players rely on their pace (Thierry Henry for example) -others- rely on their positioning and passing (Juan Roman Riquelme). It would be great if we could see such fundamental skills ON THE PITCH.
How can that be achieved?? I think it's possible by adding New Skills. Fundamental Skills like the ones mentioned before (Passing Skills) and some other New Skills such as;
Defensive Skills - Marking, tackling, Sliding Tackle, Covering, Pressuring, and Defensive Composure.
Awareness Skills - Tactical Awareness, Defensive Awareness, and Attacking Awareness.
Shooting Skills - Instep Drive Shot, Inside Foot Shot, Outside Foot Shot, Chip Shot, Shot Technique (old), Shot Power (old), and Long Range Shooting (currently a Special Ability).
Dribbling Skills - Step-Over, Pull-Back, Shielding, Flick Ball Up, Roulette, Nutmeg, Lane Change, and a few more.
Others - Finishing, Strength, Mentality (old), and Consistency.
So bottom line is - that Next Generation Football games NEED to cover the fundamental aspects of football. Football is not like Basketball, Baseball, or Tennis.. Football is a team game, it's played with 11 players who cover different positions - Konami needs to cover the different skills required for each position, and I mean Skills not Special Abilities.
And the most disappointing fact about PES 2008?? The fact that they took the time to make new features such as "Diving" -but- somehow forgot to improve the fundamental aspects of the beautiful game.
Well, personally I wasn't greatly disappointed because I had read all the critics about PES08. So I was expecting a disappointing game, and yeah it haves some major issues, but it still is the best football game out there -however- the MOST disappointing fact is that I still see the exact same SKILLS that PES had 4 years ago!!
Pass Accuracy
Pass Speed
Dribble Accuracy
Dribble Speed
Attack
Defense
Shot Accuracy
Shot Technique
I mean, How generic is that!! So much talk about the PS3, so much unquestionable potential - and still both EA Sports and Konami can only manage to make touched up versions of past games!! - That's what makes PES dissapointing to my eyes.
For one I was expecting the old - Shot Accuracy and Shot Technique to be updated. I mean, what about Long Range Shot Accuracy?? What covers that?? In my opinion is way too generic to just have Shot Accuracy and Shooting Technique - There are plenty of shooting techniques; Chip Shot, Instep drive, Placed Shot, etc, etc.. Up till date - PES still has no SKILL to cover shoots such as Chip Shots or Long Range Shots.
And what about Dribbling!! - just Dribble Accuracy and Dribble Speed to cover for Dribbling!! Too generic. What about players who almost never perform a step-over?? Players such as Kaka, Riquelme, Raul, Pirlo, etc, etc.. There must be a difference in the dribbling styles of the players - in order to establish a difference between tricksters such as Cristiano Ronaldo or Luis Figo -and- less showy players like Kaka and Riquelme. For example, Kaka should not perform a step-over by tapping the L1 Button - he should perform another trick, but definitely not a step-over.
More of the same with passing - Pass Accuracy and Pass Speed. I mean, this is football!! any decent Football fan knows that "Pass and Movement" are fundamental to the beautiful game. I still don't see the difference between players with great Tactical Awareness - that is great technical movement such as Juan Roman Riquelme -and- players who don't have or don't rely on good tactical awareness such as Ronaldinho.
That is a fundamental fact of Football - and it is something that PES currently lacks. That Tactical Awareness Skill is what differentiates players such as Riquelme, Zidane, Valderrama, or Pirlo -from- players such as Henry, Ronaldinho, Joaquin, Robben, or Shauwn Wright Phillips.
I think some simple skill additions would solve that problem, for example adding a few New Skills such as;
Short Ground Pass,
Short Lobbed Pass,
Long Ground Pass,
Long Lobbed Pass,
Through Ball Technique,
and maybe a Passing Technique.
Those are only 6 Skills, and I'm sure they would make a HUGE difference to the game play of the game - for one, players would be further differentiated. For example David Beckham has a great Long Lobbed Pass Skill, but (as with most English players) his ground passes are not that accurate or incisive. On the other hand, the former Colombian Playmaker Carlos Valderrama was not The best at Lobbed Passes -but- his Groung Passes, be it short or long, were flawless. Valderrama's Through Pass Technique?? El Pibe could perform passes you didn't thought possible.
With only 6 new skills, Konami could manage to establish a new-found difference between players such as David Beckham (or Juninho Pernambucanon) and Juan Roman Riquelme (or Carlos Valderrama, Andrea Pirlo, etc, ect). The game play and reality of the game would be further improved with only 6 New Skills - for a fact there would be no more playmaking with Beckham. David Beckham would be David Beckham - who is a Side Midfielder. And Riquelme, Guti, Diego, etc, etc.. - would be Playmakers.
Another Fundamental Skill that PES currently lacks is - Work Rate; such skill could determine how much running a player does Off-The-Ball, and by off-the-ball I mean automatic - performed by the computer. For example, a player such as Gennaro Gattuso would have a very high Work Rate Skill -while on the other hand- Carlos Valderrama would have a low Work Rate skill.
Konami needs to identify this fundamental abilities that differentiate players because those ''fundamental skills'' - are what makes Football a team game; Zidane creates and distributes the ball - Makelele does the off-the-ball work in order to win the ball back - Vieira is the all-around great player - Thierry Henry scores the goals - Thuram defends the goal poasts. And viceversa - Zidane cannot play Defensive Midfielder because he doesn't haves the skill required to do so effectively - Makelele cannot play as Playmaker - Vieira could pretty much play any position in the midfield - etc,etc..
Different positions require different skills and abilities - I shouldn't be able to control a match 'a-lo-Riquelme' with a player like David Beckham. And I shouldn't be able to tackle just as effectively with Riquelme or Maldini.
That is the main problem with the current PES -too generical in too many fundamental aspects of Football- and knowing how good PES08 actually is, I know for a fact that PES can be 3 times better. Imagine players with different types of movements Off-The-Ball, because it is a well known fact that while some players rely on their pace (Thierry Henry for example) -others- rely on their positioning and passing (Juan Roman Riquelme). It would be great if we could see such fundamental skills ON THE PITCH.
How can that be achieved?? I think it's possible by adding New Skills. Fundamental Skills like the ones mentioned before (Passing Skills) and some other New Skills such as;
Defensive Skills - Marking, tackling, Sliding Tackle, Covering, Pressuring, and Defensive Composure.
Awareness Skills - Tactical Awareness, Defensive Awareness, and Attacking Awareness.
Shooting Skills - Instep Drive Shot, Inside Foot Shot, Outside Foot Shot, Chip Shot, Shot Technique (old), Shot Power (old), and Long Range Shooting (currently a Special Ability).
Dribbling Skills - Step-Over, Pull-Back, Shielding, Flick Ball Up, Roulette, Nutmeg, Lane Change, and a few more.
Others - Finishing, Strength, Mentality (old), and Consistency.
So bottom line is - that Next Generation Football games NEED to cover the fundamental aspects of football. Football is not like Basketball, Baseball, or Tennis.. Football is a team game, it's played with 11 players who cover different positions - Konami needs to cover the different skills required for each position, and I mean Skills not Special Abilities.
And the most disappointing fact about PES 2008?? The fact that they took the time to make new features such as "Diving" -but- somehow forgot to improve the fundamental aspects of the beautiful game.
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