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The Ultimate Classic Player Thread

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beasley17

Registered User
I haven't had access to my computer the last couple of days, but now I'm back. Nice work, krookwk and YV84. I understand if you'd prefer to wait until PES 5 comes out to make some of these appearances. Still, if someone with enough time on their hands could do them, I'd appreciate it. I'm in America, so I won't be getting PES 5 (or rather Winning Eleven 9) until next February.

In the meantime, here's stats for Uli Hoeness, by plumbum. Position is CF/OMF.

86
48
78
85
88
83
84
86
89
94
81
76
74
79
84
83
76
80
72
76
86
90
86
82
7
50
82
6
6
4

no special stats
 
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beasley17

Registered User
And here's Mario Basler, also by plumbum.

82
52
83
71
73
77
85
81
83
82
84
88
90
93
82
84
86
89
87
73
75
86
74
72
7
50
83
5
6
6

playmaking*
both feet feint*
side*
outside*
 
YV84

YV84

Registered User
Hello Krookwk, Beasley, GerdMuller and the others:

I post 1 player now, don't forget that sometimes i'll update my list of player.
 
YV84

YV84

Registered User
Gunnar Gren

Gunnar GREN

--> One of the 3 swedish who composed the GRENOLI of the mythic Milan AC of the 50's:

Nationality: Sweden
Position: OMF*/CMF
Age:27
Foot:right

Building face:
skin1
8,3,-3
18,-1,-2,0,1, dark grey 1
1,0,+1
2
3,+3,-1,-1
2,-3,-1

Buzz cut1,4,1
coul 55

175cm/75kg
+2,0,+4,-1,-1,+4,+3,0,0,0,0

81
56
81
71
82
81
83
72
84
82
81
81
85
83
88
81
89
81
64
71
72
89
81
83
6
50
82
7
6
5
playmaking, passing, centre.

If you have suggestion about a player that i post, say me

;)
 
Krook

Krook

Ex-Classic Creator
Nice link beasley17, this is a wicked reference point for excellent players. Maybe we could create classic teams out of this like the 6 all ready in the game. I suspect most of those players will be made at some point so it is a possibility. Just an idea though.
 
Krook

Krook

Ex-Classic Creator
Just a quick note, I started to create the Brazilian (adopted Italian) Jose ALTAFINI & found out he played under the nickname "Mazzola". Is this the Mazzola already in the classic Italy team, as I know there are a two (other being Sandro Mazzola). Anyway I feel stupid for not knowing this so if anyone can help, let me know. Thanks.
 
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Gerd_Muller

Registered User
YV84 said:
Gunnar GREN

--> One of the 3 swedish who composed the GRENOLI of the mythic Milan AC of the 50's:

Nationality: Sweden
Position: OMF*/CMF
Age:27
Foot:right

Building face:
skin1
8,3,-3
18,-1,-2,0,1, dark grey 1
1,0,+1
2
3,+3,-1,-1
2,-3,-1

Buzz cut1,4,1
coul 55

175cm/75kg
+2,0,+4,-1,-1,+4,+3,0,0,0,0

81
56
81
71
82
81
83
72
84
82
81
81
85
83
88
81
89
81
64
71
72
89
81
83
6
50
82
7
6
5
playmaking, passing, centre.

If you have suggestion about a player that i post, say me

;)
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The stats could been better, I think:)
 
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Gerd_Muller

Registered User
Here is some high and weight of some players:)

Lennart Skoglund
170 cm
68 kg

Nils Liedholm
182 cm
81 kg

Gunnar Gren
175 cm
75 kg
 
Krook

Krook

Ex-Classic Creator
Hey YV84 & Gerd Muller, I found someone else who has created Gren and he seems well overrated to YV84's version. If you are interested I'll post his stats, but which version is more realistic? I trust YV84's judgement more.
 
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Gerd_Muller

Registered User
Krookwk said:
Hey YV84 & Gerd Muller, I found someone else who has created Gren and he seems well overrated to YV84's version. If you are interested I'll post his stats, but which version is more realistic? I trust YV84's judgement more.
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Yeah I´m interested:)
 
Krook

Krook

Ex-Classic Creator
Here's the ratings for Gunnar GREN

Ability-
Attack: 91
Defence: 69
Balance: 85
Stamina: 79
Top Sp: 77
Accele: 78
Respnse: 93
Agility: 84
Drib Acc: 86
Drib Spd: 79
S-P Acc: 98
S-P Spd: 95
L-P Acc: 97
L-P Spd: 95
Sht Acc: 84
Sht Pwr: 80
Sht Tech:85
F Kick: 74
Curling: 83
Header: 70
Jump: 82
Techniq: 97
Aggress: 82
Mental: 91
Consist: 5
Kp Skill: 50
Tm Wrk: 73
Condit: 5
Wk Acc: 3
Wk Freq: 3

Special Ability-

Post Player *
Positioning *
Playmaking *
Passing *

Don't use this though, this is only to see the difference.
Notice how his passing stats are all reds making him probably the best passer in the game, which can't be right and his technique is almost perfect. Anyway you be the judge.
 
Krook

Krook

Ex-Classic Creator
beasley17 said:
I haven't had access to my computer the last couple of days, but now I'm back. Nice work, krookwk and YV84. I understand if you'd prefer to wait until PES 5 comes out to make some of these appearances. Still, if someone with enough time on their hands could do them, I'd appreciate it. I'm in America, so I won't be getting PES 5 (or rather Winning Eleven 9) until next February.
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So you live in America and you like football, sorry soccer. AND you're interested in classic players. I suppose there's a first for everything!

Sorry to hear that you can't get PES 5, although it would be well worth getting your console chipped & getting it on import. Or if you played it on PC it would be easier to get hold of. Shame really.

Just one question if anyone knows, is the Winning Eleven 9 that comes out in America just a name change or like the japanese winning eleven?

I still hope you will be able to use the players we do for PES5, Beasley.
 
Krook

Krook

Ex-Classic Creator
beasley17 said:
Guys, I can't believe I didn't think of this page earlier: http://www.planetworldcup.com/atwc/atwc_squads.html. The people behind this assembled all-time World Cup teams for 32 countries and played them against each other in a mock WC. You may find some names to inspire you.
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Just a few thoughts I'm surprised Socrates (also Rivaldo) isn't on the Brazil team, and maybe Gascoigne for England.

That page has got better suggestions for the classic teams already in the game.
 
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Gerd_Muller

Registered User
Krookwk said:
Here's the ratings for Gunnar GREN
Ability-
Attack: 91
Defence: 69
Balance: 85
Stamina: 79
Top Sp: 77
Accele: 78
Respnse: 93
Agility: 84
Drib Acc: 86
Drib Spd: 79
S-P Acc: 98
S-P Spd: 95
L-P Acc: 97
L-P Spd: 95
Sht Acc: 84
Sht Pwr: 80
Sht Tech:85
F Kick: 74
Curling: 83
Header: 70
Jump: 82
Techniq: 97
Aggress: 82
Mental: 91
Consist: 5
Kp Skill: 50
Tm Wrk: 73
Condit: 5
Wk Acc: 3
Wk Freq: 3

Special Ability-
Post Player *
Positioning *
Playmaking *
Passing *
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I think this is good stats for him.:)
Attack: 94
Defence: 48
Balance: 82
Stamina: 90
Top Sp: 85
Accele: 89
Respnse: 97
Agility: 88
Drib Acc: 89
Drib Spd: 83
S-P Acc: 91
S-P Spd: 89
L-P Acc: 90
L-P Spd: 88
Sht Acc: 87
Sht Pwr: 82
Sht Tech:89
F Kick: 65
Curling: 71
Header: 74
Jump: 78
Techniq: 91
Aggress: 87
Mental: 94
Consist: 5
Kp Skill: 50
Tm Wrk: 85
Condit: 6 or 7
Wk Acc: 4
Wk Freq: 3 or 4

Special Ability-
dribble *
Post Player *
Passing *
1 by 1 score *

Thoughts someone about this:)
 
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