The Ultimate Classic Player Thread
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Gerd_Muller
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Krookwk said:
Should we have 2 or 3 GK???? Karl-Oskar Svensson is it (GK)
And I have allready write down Ralf Edström in my team!
Gerd_Muller
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When has you done your team (Swedish classic)
Gerd_Muller
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Ok
Krook
Ex-Classic Creator
Here's my list of 20 that I think should probably make the team, The ones with * by them are players that should definately be included. I couldn't think of another three who I would recommend, as my knowledge of Swedish players is somewhat limited. Here they are:
Ravelli (GK) *
P. Andersson (CBT, DMF) *
Orvar Bergmark (CBT)
Bengt Gustavsson (CBT, CBW)
Liedholm (OMF, CF, CMF) *
R. Nilsson (RMF)
Nordqvist (RB, CBT)
Brolin (OMF, WF, CF) *
Gren (CF) *
Hamrin (RWF) *
Schwarz (DMF, LMF)
K. Andersson (CF) *
Dahlin (CF) *
Nordahl (CF) *
R. Hellstrom (GK)
Skoglund (LWF) *
Thern (OMF, CMF, RMF)
Karl-Oskar Svensson (LB)
Bjorklund (CBT)
Ljung (LB)
Here's a suggested first team for them, obviously with such good attacking players, this is an attacking formation with two forward wingers supporting the strikers.
Ravelli (GK)
Nordqvist (RB) Gustavsson (CBT) P. Andersson (CBT) Svensson (LB)
Schwarz (DMF)
Liedholm (OMF)
Hamrin(RWF) Skoglund (LWF)
Gren (CF) Nordahl (CF)
I hope I haven't got many mistakes here, i'm a little rusty on some of the positions these players played, so forgive me if they're totally wrong.
Here's the players suggested from the Planet World Cup team which honestly I do not know much about so I haven't included them as suggestions, but should probably be looked into, they must have been good players:
Erik Nilsson
Bo Larsson
Sigvard Parling
Ralf Edström
Sven Rydell
Roland Grip
Ove Grahn
Lastly Gerd Muller, I realised there was a player called Mellberg who played in 1958 for the Swedish team who was a good striker. Did you mean him instead of the Aston Villa defender Olof Mellberg who's currently playing?
Anybody out there, let me know what you think of these suggestions....
Ravelli (GK) *
P. Andersson (CBT, DMF) *
Orvar Bergmark (CBT)
Bengt Gustavsson (CBT, CBW)
Liedholm (OMF, CF, CMF) *
R. Nilsson (RMF)
Nordqvist (RB, CBT)
Brolin (OMF, WF, CF) *
Gren (CF) *
Hamrin (RWF) *
Schwarz (DMF, LMF)
K. Andersson (CF) *
Dahlin (CF) *
Nordahl (CF) *
R. Hellstrom (GK)
Skoglund (LWF) *
Thern (OMF, CMF, RMF)
Karl-Oskar Svensson (LB)
Bjorklund (CBT)
Ljung (LB)
Here's a suggested first team for them, obviously with such good attacking players, this is an attacking formation with two forward wingers supporting the strikers.
Ravelli (GK)
Nordqvist (RB) Gustavsson (CBT) P. Andersson (CBT) Svensson (LB)
Schwarz (DMF)
Liedholm (OMF)
Hamrin(RWF) Skoglund (LWF)
Gren (CF) Nordahl (CF)
I hope I haven't got many mistakes here, i'm a little rusty on some of the positions these players played, so forgive me if they're totally wrong.
Here's the players suggested from the Planet World Cup team which honestly I do not know much about so I haven't included them as suggestions, but should probably be looked into, they must have been good players:
Erik Nilsson
Bo Larsson
Sigvard Parling
Ralf Edström
Sven Rydell
Roland Grip
Ove Grahn
Lastly Gerd Muller, I realised there was a player called Mellberg who played in 1958 for the Swedish team who was a good striker. Did you mean him instead of the Aston Villa defender Olof Mellberg who's currently playing?
Anybody out there, let me know what you think of these suggestions....
soliloquay
Banned
Might I ask you how extensive your knowledge of footballing history is, Krookw?
Krook
Ex-Classic Creator
Well it all started when I bought a couple of classic players for my master league team, I became interested in knowing about these players and went out and bought the history of the world cup box set and have become very interested in the generations of players involved in the game. I've read many books, watched loads of old footage of players, some even surprised as to how good they were. Most people think that the players of 20-30 years ago are not as good as current players, which just isn't so.
I try to spend alot of time on research for the players and try to judge them fairly. And anyway if people have a problem with any of the players I post I welcome it, criticism is good.
Alot of people may have a better footballing history knowledge than me, but I research and watch as much as I can, cause that's what I enjoy doing.
I try to spend alot of time on research for the players and try to judge them fairly. And anyway if people have a problem with any of the players I post I welcome it, criticism is good.
Alot of people may have a better footballing history knowledge than me, but I research and watch as much as I can, cause that's what I enjoy doing.
Gerd_Muller
Registered User
Krookwk said:
I mean Olof Mellberg (Aston Villa) first of all
Your formation is good but, Is a 4-2-4 formation good???? Bengt Gustavsson was a MF and i thinked that we could change him to Bjorklund at the starting lineup.
Karl-Oskar Svensson was a GK as i sad before so we can put R. Nilsson there instead, We must have R. Edstrom in the team!(He was a swedish star at 1974) I could say more but i think i would say to much
any Thoughts???
Cannon ball
Registered User
Does anyone have the Saudi players from USA 94?
YV84
Registered User
Hello Krookwk and Gerd Muller, How are you?
I see that it's hard to make a definitive list for a classic Sweden, it's the same thing for many country(hard to do a classic USSR or Czechoslovakia with 20 or 22 players). After, evryone choose the players that he want, nut it's good to have several source of inspiration.
During the week, you know that i'm busy, so i don't know when will be my next post, but don't worry I keep an eye on this great thread and i continue to prepare player for PES5 :wub: too.
Bye
I see that it's hard to make a definitive list for a classic Sweden, it's the same thing for many country(hard to do a classic USSR or Czechoslovakia with 20 or 22 players). After, evryone choose the players that he want, nut it's good to have several source of inspiration.
During the week, you know that i'm busy, so i don't know when will be my next post, but don't worry I keep an eye on this great thread and i continue to prepare player for PES5 :wub: too.
Bye
Krook
Ex-Classic Creator
Gerd_Muller said:I mean Olof Mellberg (Aston Villa) first of all
Your formation is good but, Is a 4-2-4 formation good???? Bengt Gustavsson was a MF and i thinked that we could change him to Bjorklund at the starting lineup.
Karl-Oskar Svensson was a GK as i sad before so we can put R. Nilsson there instead, We must have R. Edstrom in the team!(He was a swedish star at 1974) I could say more but i think i would say to much
any Thoughts???
Ok, firstly I just wanted to have as many of their top players in a formation, but obviously that isn't practical. So Gustavsson as a defensive midfielder & put Bjorklund in makes sense, I agree with that.
I don't think Mellberg should be included, I watch him every week for my team Aston Villa and although a good defender, I don't think he belongs here.
As for Karl-Oskar Svensson I was thinking of another player called Svensson who played LB. All the suggestions made sense, it seems you have a better idea than me. You have more ideas?
Krookwk said:
the game has certainly evolved quite a bit, especially from the tactical and defensive end, from which one could argue that attackers had it a hell of a lot easier back then
pelé playing the brazilian league didn't face nearly as much pressure as maradona did in the italian league
but conversely you really can't dismiss the talent of the players that forced this defensive movement in the first place
Gerd_Muller
Registered User
Krookwk said:
So your suggestion is this
Code:
Ravelli (GK)
Nordqvist (RB) Bjorklund (CBT) P. Andersson (CBT) R. Nilsson (LB)
Gustavsson (DMF)
Liedholm (OMF)
Hamrin(RWF) Skoglund (LWF)
Gren (CF) Nordahl (CF)Gerd_Muller
Registered User
look at this answers!!!! PES5
Q: Will created players be able to be registered to club sides??
Answer: Yes they now can, from the PES5 manual:
1. frome the player registration team, select the team of the player you are registering with a club
2. Align the cursor with the player you want to register and press the :x: button
3. Select the team you are registering with. Press the :x: button to finish the registration. The player is now able to appear in matches.
Q: Will you be able to make players who moved to teams not on the game free agents??
Answer: YES thankfully you can now release players who are no longer at a team in the game. Simply select them and Press :square: they are then put in a new section called unused. this only appears when you have released a player!
It´s for ps2
So we can Create Classic Sweden Over the (WE United or PES United)
Are that good News or is it not???!!
Q: Will created players be able to be registered to club sides??
Answer: Yes they now can, from the PES5 manual:
1. frome the player registration team, select the team of the player you are registering with a club
2. Align the cursor with the player you want to register and press the :x: button
3. Select the team you are registering with. Press the :x: button to finish the registration. The player is now able to appear in matches.
Q: Will you be able to make players who moved to teams not on the game free agents??
Answer: YES thankfully you can now release players who are no longer at a team in the game. Simply select them and Press :square: they are then put in a new section called unused. this only appears when you have released a player!
It´s for ps2
So we can Create Classic Sweden Over the (WE United or PES United)
Are that good News or is it not???!!
Gerd_Muller
Registered User
My last Suggestion is this It´s 4-3-3
Bench
R. Hellstrom (GK)
Orvar Bergmark (CBT)
Ove Grahn (CBT, RB)
Ljung (LB)
Schwarz (DMF, LMF)
Anders Limpar (DMF, RMF, OMF, LMF)
Thern (OMF, CMF, RMF)
Liedholm (OMF, CF, CMF)
Skoglund (LWF)
Agne Simonsson (CF)
K. Andersson (CF)
Dahlin (CF)
It´s 4-3-3
Code:
Ravelli (GK)
P. Kamark (RB)Bjorklund (CBT)P. Andersson (CBT)R. Nilsson (LB)
Brolin (RMF) Liedholm (OMF) R. Edström (OMF)
Hamrin(CF) Gren (CF) Nordahl (CF)Bench
R. Hellstrom (GK)
Orvar Bergmark (CBT)
Ove Grahn (CBT, RB)
Ljung (LB)
Schwarz (DMF, LMF)
Anders Limpar (DMF, RMF, OMF, LMF)
Thern (OMF, CMF, RMF)
Liedholm (OMF, CF, CMF)
Skoglund (LWF)
Agne Simonsson (CF)
K. Andersson (CF)
Dahlin (CF)
Krook
Ex-Classic Creator
guest501 said:
Yeh exactly, all the players I create here have a 'special' talent that would shine brightly today & it's true that defenders have evolved the most. (If they could not stop a player back then they just tackled them, quite brutally as well! This was the case for Pele at many moments in the World Cups he played in.
Also something that should be pointed out here, is that the player's already posted here & the ones to come, are only a small fraction of the amount of players who have played football for the last century, so only the best players are a cut above the majority of the current ones. (that's a bit long-winded, don't you think?)
Krook
Ex-Classic Creator
Gerd_Muller said:
That is good news that you can register created players, why you could never do that I don't know, but like you said it will be easier to create custom teams like Classic Sweden over the WE United or PES United slots.
It's just a shame you can't create brand new teams from scratch..... (hopefully by the time PES6 is out!)
Your formation suggestion looks good, with mine to make it work you'd have to push Hamrin & Skoglund back to LMF & RMF, which is out of position for them so essentially yours is better.
I'll post some more thoughts later....