Dude you do realise you can alter the global gamespeed by up to + or - 2 in settings menu dont you?
Yes of course. But even 0 was too fast and arcadeish, imho.
Does anyone really play with 1 and 2? I mean really?
Lawn Care Service of Cedar Park 100 E Whitestone Blvd Ste 148, #166 Cedar Park, TX 78613 (512) 595-0884
Dude you do realise you can alter the global gamespeed by up to + or - 2 in settings menu dont you?
So if 0 was to fast man put it to -2, it makes a massive difference.
Stop being a drama queen. if you can't take the heat get the hell out of the kitchen
I know im new to this site and I dont know anyone on here but when you say that to me it makes you sound really stupid.
Which version do you like better?
PES 2010
You think so? Well you posting ''pes 2010'' in every one of your posts makes you look pretty damn stupid and simple.
Lets be honest you haven't got a quarter of the brain capacity that I possess.
It's not what I like better, its more to do with whats the more playable game that is challenging and doesn't insult my intelligence. pes2010 is a game built for 10-15 year olds and men with attention disorders who mentally have a mind of a adolescent who just want to play as their favourite player and abuse the game.
Pes2011 is targeted to more of a mature audience where you have to think about what you are doing where there are no exploits or cheap goals to score consistently. Wherein tactics then come into the equation. Many people on here cant handle that - they expect to enter the match and play like barcalona. They quickly find out pes2011 doesn't allow you to do that without mastering the game first. Do they either switch to fifa, or go back to abusing pes2010 where they can run down the wing, whip in a cross and header every time. Or pass to messi torres or ronaldo and run through the whole team.
You think so? Well you posting ''pes 2010'' in every one of your posts makes you look pretty damn stupid and simple.
Lets be honest you haven't got a quarter of the brain capacity that I possess.
It's not what I like better, its more to do with whats the more playable game that is challenging and doesn't insult my intelligence. pes2010 is a game built for 10-15 year olds and men with attention disorders who mentally have a mind of a adolescent who just want to play as their favourite player and abuse the game.
Pes2011 is targeted to more of a mature audience where you have to think about what you are doing where there are no exploits or cheap goals to score consistently. Wherein tactics then come into the equation. Many people on here cant handle that - they expect to enter the match and play like barcalona. They quickly find out pes2011 doesn't allow you to do that without mastering the game first. Do they either switch to fifa, or go back to abusing pes2010 where they can run down the wing, whip in a cross and header every time. Or pass to messi torres or ronaldo and run through the whole team.
I haven't bought PES2011 yet but tried the demo and was very impressed with the things that Konami added. Yes, you can make pin-point through balls with Xavi but there ain't many Xavi's in the game right? Try using Lucas and do that.
Pes2011 is targeted to more of a mature audience where you have to think about what you are doing where there are no exploits or cheap goals to score consistently.
I won't go back on what I said about the CPU AI, I still bloody hate it
Ill beat that you can do pin point through balls with Valeny let alone bloody Lucas, honestly buy the game before commenting, when you see people launching defence splitting passes with CBs by simply just powering the bar up to full ad nauseum, then you might change you opinion.
If by 'think about what your doing' you mean battle against the plethora of bugs, glitches and useless cursor switching to exploit massive defensive loopholes then yeah I guess you have a point
And seriously are you suggesting there arent any glaring exploits and glitches?!? I mean honestly are you joking, this year is the worst yet, the exploits and glitches are so obvious they virtually kick you in the balls every time you play.
And theres the rub, Konami seem to have spent so long getting MLO to a playable state, albeit still with issues, that they just totally shafted the offline side of the game, the AI is terrible to play against, most games against the AI are like playing a Mick Mcarthy side circa 1990s on crack.
Online when you arent being cheated or beaten with some cheasy exploit it is great, offline its decidedly... meh
Ha, laughing my ass off at your ignorance.... this comment shows how redundant your argument is, it also shows how little idea you have as to where and why the game needs massive changes.
You are under the impression that anyone who does not like or enjoy PES11, must be someone with attention disorders or low IQ. That is stupid, even more so when you talk about attention disorders in a PES11 forum....
If you cannot notice why PES11 is not enjoyable for a lot of people, you might actually have an attention disorder.
You just come off as a massive asshole; you really should come to terms with the fact that you have an opinion, and your opinion is not close to a fact....
There is absolutely no need to go around saying that the people who prefer PES10 to PES11 are wrong in thinking that.
I have never abused Xavi Hernandez that much in PES10, he is good in PES10, but not nearly as good as he is in PES11.
In PES11, I give the ball to Xavi Hernandez and I can split the defense wide open with the same identical pass.... without thinking about anything.... because like FIFA09, PES11 does not require any build-up play, it plays like a never-ending counter attack: counter attacks barely require any thinking, it's already obvious.
I will again say you have only played the game for three days, so as you would say, your argument is redundant as you'd have no idea on how to work on build up play which you can and sometimes have to do when up against a stubborn defense. PES11 requires more thinking than any of its predecessor because your style of play determines how you will fare against a opponemt. Especially with MLO when you begin with inferior master league default players and you play at a disadvantage to other players with more quality in their squad. If you know your stuff tactically you can outsmart the opposition even with inferior players. If you don't tinker with your tactics and just jump into the game, then you're likely to get battered.
I have no problem with players like Xavi Hernandez playing a more important role; however, PES11 has gone backwards in other areas of the game.... and these other areas which have gone backwards, directly affect the effectiveness of the new passing system.
My problem with the game is not that I cannot handle such an easy game, my problem with the game is the fact that I cannot enjoy the game for what it is: in my opinion, it is a boring, dull, automatic, restrictive, monotonous, superficial, etc, etc, video game.
LOL yeah yeah amateur you said the same shit last year, and the year before and next year you'll say the same. You judged the game based on the trailer, so that's how I know you're a moron who just enjoys and loves being miserable. You love it
In my opinion, PES10 is better than PES11, but I also cannot enjoy PES10 anymore. I was expecting something different with PES11, but it turned out that PES11 is just more of the same, but simpler and dumber than I can tolerate.
lmao,(btw I'm genuinely laughing not just typing to look cool) because last year you said the exact same thing about how dumb and boring pes10 is but now all of a sudden its better. You just contradict yourself too many times that I cannot take you seriously. I think I stopped taking you seriously when you were obsessed with the 20 minute concept until I had to show you how stupid and backwards your theory was in reality.
In my case, I simply do not play PES nor FIFA, I do not enjoy playing them anymore; and thus, I do not spend time playing either one of them.
But you love talking about them right? In effect you like talking about things you hate, because it helps make you feel more miserable and others too right? Have you taken your meds today?
Yet, I have the right to express my opinion, and to talk about certain facts if I want to.
Sure you do, just like you have a right to exist, doesn't mean other people are going to like it.
This is a fairly simple fact: one button determines the direction when you pass the ball, and an entirely different button determines the power or weight of the pass; in other words, the new passing system is a dual system, it has two dimensions or layers to it.
The d-pad determines the diretion to where you pass the ball. And there is a two buttons for a pass, x for short pass and o for long pass. I dont know what your point is except trying to sound like you know what you're talking about when in reality you don't have a clue.
Another fact: I cannot use the left analogue stick nor the right analogue stick to measure the direction of the tackle, and I also cannot use an entirely different button to measure the distance of the tackle; so how can I intercept a pass when I cannot even measure something as basic as tackling for the ball?
You anticipate where the opposition player is going to pass the ball and run towards that direction and more often then not, if your good, you will successfully intercept the ball standing, or if out of reach slide and the player will against intercept. Get practice, take your meds, and one day you might be good at the game so you can stop hating it and boring us all to death with your nonsensical essays.
Another fact: the script that the computer uses to dictate everything for you so that you don't experience the necessity of utilizing your brain, is determined by the positioning and movement of the dots or targets that in turn determine the effectiveness of your passing.
Your tactics, formations,players selected and team styles determine how the game will play out. Not the dots on the radar, thats just reading and tracking the positions of the players while they move around the pitch. Learn to differientiate.
Same fact, slightly different perspective: the user cannot utilize pressure sensitive buttons such as the L2 button to control the direction in which the targets move and the speed at which the targets move.... because this would break the com-dictatorship due to the fact that it would give the user the power of dictating his own script.
If you're referring to off the ball movement, then yes I agree that should be expanded upon. Only one point that is justified through all your ramblings however not fully being able to use this option is not a game breaker. So like the other poster you fail in your exaggeration.
I'll respond to the rest of your neverending shit later, I got things to do.
I tend to agree but they will come with the tourches to skin you alive very shortly so RUN!
Ill beat that you can do pin point through balls with Valeny let alone bloody Lucas, honestly buy the game before commenting, when you see people launching defence splitting passes with CBs by simply just powering the bar up to full ad nauseum, then you might change you opinion.
Well I haven't tried that because I haven't bought the game yet. Fyi as I've already stated I'm using PC to play and keyboards are my joystick and I only have 4 cursor keys to make 360 degree passes and turns and flicks which only is possible with PES2011 in current gen games. And I played top player in my first game with barca v bayern and scored the decisive goal at the last minute with fantastic build-up play with around 10-15 passes. I ain't tried the long passes yet but as I know, top player defenders would get in the way of your so called 'Valeny balls'. PES2010 is just too plain and the ML completely ruined the game and BAL mode never improved in 2010 from 2009. Maybe I played to much to have got that feeling but a fresh set of changes is needed to elevate PES reputation to it's former glory and own Fifa.
Stfu, you don't have a clue. You played the game for three days, then gave up like a bitch. So dont start talking like you know what's wrong with the game.
Its not an impression its the truth. I've come a across now four members on here that have been crying about how complicated the tactics navigation screen is and how hard the defence is and how the computer cheat when they fail to win every match. And how they can't out pace players every second. And your another one with no patience after throwing the game out after three days because you realised it wasn't something you could pick up and abuse,
I've highlighted numerous times why people don't find the game enjoyable, it;s not rocket science. They lose a few games and they throw their toys out of the pram instead manning up and learning how to play the game properly.
Unfortunately we have people like you who only lpay the game to search for things that are wrong with it so you can come on here and write stories of how awful the game is even though you've not even given it the time to play it properly
Lol amateur calling someone an asshole even though the whole forum is already tired of you because they know you are one of the most delusional and asinine individuals to ever register on this forum.
They are wrong because pes10 is clearly an inferior game on multiple levels, it's not really up for debate
As for PES11,
I have never abused Xavi Hernandez that much in PES10, he is good in PES10, but not nearly as good as he is in PES11.
I will again say you have only played the game for three days, so as you would say, your argument is redundant as you'd have no idea on how to work on build up play which you can and sometimes have to do when up against a stubborn defense. PES11 requires more thinking than any of its predecessor because your style of play determines how you will fare against a opponemt. Especially with MLO when you begin with inferior master league default players and you play at a disadvantage to other players with more quality in their squad. If you know your stuff tactically you can outsmart the opposition even with inferior players. If you don't tinker with your tactics and just jump into the game, then you're likely to get battered.
I have no problem with players like Xavi Hernandez playing a more important role; however, PES11 has gone backwards in other areas of the game.... and these other areas which have gone backwards, directly affect the effectiveness of the new passing system.
LOL yeah yeah amateur you said the same shit last year, and the year before and next year you'll say the same. You judged the game based on the trailer, so that's how I know you're a moron who just enjoys and loves being miserable. You love it
lmao,(btw I'm genuinely laughing not just typing to look cool) because last year you said the exact same thing about how dumb and boring pes10 is but now all of a sudden its better. You just contradict yourself too many times that I cannot take you seriously. I think I stopped taking you seriously when you were obsessed with the 20 minute concept until I had to show you how stupid and backwards your theory was in reality.
But you love talking about them right? In effect you like talking about things you hate, because it helps make you feel more miserable and others too right? Have you taken your meds today?
Sure you do, just like you have a right to exist, doesn't mean other people are going to like it.
The d-pad determines the diretion to where you pass the ball. And there is a two buttons for a pass, x for short pass and o for long pass. I dont know what your point is except trying to sound like you know what you're talking about when in reality you don't have a clue.
You anticipate where the opposition player is going to pass the ball and run towards that direction and more often then not, if your good, you will successfully intercept the ball standing, or if out of reach slide and the player will against intercept. Get practice, take your meds, and one day you might be good at the game so you can stop hating it and boring us all to death with your nonsensical essays.
Your tactics, formations,players selected and team styles determine how the game will play out. Not the dots on the radar, thats just reading and tracking the positions of the players while they move around the pitch. Learn to differientiate.
If you're referring to off the ball movement, then yes I agree that should be expanded upon. Only one point that is justified through all your ramblings however not fully being able to use this option is not a game breaker. So like the other poster you fail in your exaggeration.
I'll respond to the rest of your neverending shit later, I got things to do.
Dude, it is impossible to have a civilized and mature conversation with you; I am saying that the game is too easy.... and you think that I "gave up like a bitch".
It does not makes any sense, had I gave up, I would be talking about how difficult the game is, not about how easy and insubstantial the game is.
PES11 is clearly superior to you, not to me, and not to other people who also do not like PES11.
The d-pad, I never said you cannot use it; the mathematical problem is simple, the d-pad barely has any range of movement, therefore, you can only implement a handful of animations into the d-pad.
The d-pad cannot the what the analogue can do, and the analogue cannot do what the d-pad can do, these are completely different buttons; both PES11 and FIFA11 have followed the same old d-pad concept....
The d-pad concept, where the direction in which the ball carrier runs and the distance covered with the ball, are both determined by the d-pad or by the left analogue stick; this means that it is impossible to use the depth and range of movement of the left analogue stick, in order to affect the direction in which you dribble with the ball, but without affecting the direction in which you run with the ball.
The tackling system is shit. The defensive system is hugely flawed or broken. Who cares about PES10 vs PES11, both are rubbish.
But hey, you are a moron anyways, so I don't expect you to understand my simple argument; but I tell you what, why don't we play a few MLO games.... I don't like to brag about my ability in a forum.
So when you have the time, we play a couple of MLO games, perhaps once I beat your ass at it, you'll understand why I do not enjoy PES11 for what it is.
Another fact: with the ball at your feet, you can cover spaces of over 50 feet of distance by simply directing the left analogue stick without the assistance of a sprint button; which means that it is impossible to affect the direction in which you dribble with the ball without affecting the direction in which you run with the ball.
Same fact, slightly different perspective: when dribbling with the ball, the left analogue stick determines the direction in which the ball carrier runs with the ball, and the left analogue stick also determines the distance covered with the ball; different dimensions or layers attached to one button, the antithesis of the new passing system.
In PES11 and FIFA11, you can run with the ball without the assistance of a running button....
What would happen if you could pass the ball without the assistance of a passing button?
What would happen if the direction of the pass, the power of the pass, and the timing of the pass, was all determined by directing the left analogue stick or the right analogue stick without the assistance of a passing button?
Certainly, the mathematical problem is fairly simple, three different areas cannot be determined by one button without the assistance of another button.
So if the new passing system has two independent dimensions or layers which are attached to different buttons; how do you integrate the new passing system into a game where the dribbling and man-marking system is hugely flawed?
My reason for not liking the game? The fact that the new passing system does not fit in with the rest of the game, and how utterly obvious this is.... and how the mentioned fact affects all the areas of the game; scripted, automatic, pre-determined, predictable, insubstantial, easy, dumb, flawed, etc, etc.
PES11 is one of the easiest video games I have owned, it is not aimed at mature audiences, it is aimed at the people who do not like FIFA for whatever the reason.
Both PES11 and FIFA11 are aimed at the masses, at making money on a yearly basis; and no, PES11 does not plays anything remotely close to real football, nor is it aimed at "mature" audiences.
You talk about maturity, but you never show maturity: sums you up.