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Okay guys, I have had time to digest the game and play it in all its form. I have played the PS3 version to death, and played the PC version. I have played it out of the box, with the patches, and with mods. Whilst it does indeed play a smooth game, there's just been something niggling away...

I can play the PS3 version of PES, but barely. Jenkey came along again this year and altered the game and now Yair is doing a fantastic job in morphing the game into something incredible on the PC. Together with Fire Patch, Yair's stuff is simply amazing releasing numerous patches to suit...

"Do you want variation?" "I think I'm entitled." "Do you want variation?" "I want the truth!" "Fan boys can't handle the truth!" This was taken from the archives of a PES court case. The case involved trolls and fanboys who said that 'PES was boring' and that goal variation was rubbish...

Okay then peeps (and especially Abu), I have posted long and in depth videos of PES over the past week to show off PES’ brilliance as so many people are bitching and moaning about the game, to those that have consoles, my heart goes out to you, to those with PC’s you’re bitching because you’re...

Okay this is my last HUGE POST regarding why I think PES2012 (patched with Fire Patch) is the best representation of football I’ve ever played. If you haven’t the appetite for a lengthy reading session then look away now. Okay so the first big post this week entitled “PES2012, 15 min Games...

Okay guys, this is going to be a huge post, it may even be taken off here for being so long BUT I wanted to make something that shows just how good PES is, as the general consensus is that FIFA is the bees knees, and this PES is just a big ball of shit, whilst also taking people through some...

I have been thinking about this a lot lately, and the more I think of it the more I feel that KONAMI may be right in the way the game is. Yesterday we had that Chelsea game, end to end for the full ninety, much like any Premiership game is. I kind of disagree with you about that Inter v Juve...

If you hate the game then this probably isn't for you as you'd hate it anyway, but there's a huge debate going on over on the other forums at the moment, Evo-Web and Wenb. I like to get a cross section of opinion on anything PES. The crux of the argument is this - 1) Many complained that...

This is going to be long guys, so it's not for the feint hearted! Okay as many of you know this is my background - played demo one til my fingers bled, so to demo 2. Bought the US retail so had a few weeks before the UK masses because I couldn't resist it. So - 1) I bought US retail...

I've been reading across these forums and others and the amount of complaints that the game is TOO HARD is staggering. Last year people complained that the game was too easy, now I'm not KONAMI's biggest fan after their previous next gen disappointments, but this year they have given you a...

Sorry couldn't resist this cheeky goal, 78 minutes 1-1 v the Toffees then.... http://youtu.be/KIvXMLQWMSc Ahh, PES :)

I've been sampling the PC version, and it's awesome. Fluid, the players feel like they have more weight but they also have great responsiveness, the game seems smoother/better, ball physics seem right etc etc I went back to the PS3 just for a quick PS3 game, and this happens...

Okay, I'm just starting a thread that others can add if they wish about breakthroughs that improve the game. I can only speak from experience, but just now I had a huge breakthrough in gameplay. I've been frustrated by AI cheating and shit over this last few days and was ready to ditch it for...

Okay, so I've been smashing this game for two/three days non stop, full retail (US Version). It's as full as I can make it so if you can't read long write ups this isn't for you! :) Here's my verdict - My God this game is SO close to perfection, that the glaring errors with it make me...

Okay may be a dumb question but always wondered what it does? By upping the attack level what are you actually doing, enabling a higher line, increasing player support, pressing more players? What?!? And by increasing the defence level what does that do? Also has anyone had any...

Okay, so I've been looking hard at all the YouTube stuff to gauge lighting effects and time of day. Now I know that the big stadiums will block out the sun more thus causing huge shadows, I really like the way some stadiums look with this effect. BUT - I also want the normal English 3pm...

Just an observation, I think I've got defending down just 'okay' after lots of games. I can win on Top Player with one bar assistance every now and then. I have been using the Pitch camera angle all the time because it looks great, but switched two games ago to wide, and I must say I am...

Just want to ask what you guys feel about this years games. I'm sensing something drastic is on the horizon this year and although I am now cautiously pessimistic about ANY PES release after years of bullshit, I really do get the feeling that this could be a watershed year for KONAMI and indeed...

My gf commented on something yesterday which has stumped me. I've been madly comparing and contrasting all the PES's over the last two months on all the gaming consoles. Been playing PES2011 PS2, which is good, but for me I have returned to PES6 PS2. Still the ultimate football game...

We all know the score, through PES 3-4 we played and began to see evolution, then bham, PES5/6 came to us from football heaven and we were hooked. Whichever you think was better, that wasn't the point - we caned these fkin games to death. We trawled for hours looking at the different hexagons...