about passing the ball

[EthanLionel]

@ETHANLional - please stop making excuses for the game's poor coding. I did nothing wrong with my aiming or holding of the left stick.

First of all, I'm not making an excuse for the game's bad coding. The game has a lot of bad coding in it. I'm just sharing what I know regarding the passing issue you keep mentioning.

Keep in mind, I have also experienced the passing issue you and many gamer's are experiencing in PES but I have find a way to eliminated that. I have done some test and I know the reason why it happens. You can even do the test yourself if you're on PC version. I'm just sharing it with you because if it worked for me, then it might work for you too.

Anyways, I don't want to force anyone to believe me. I was just sharing what I know for people who are interested!

 

[Rat Monkey]

Did a pass today that made be burst out laughing. The sort of laugh where you couldn't believe what you just saw. I aimed at about 11 o' clock, the player passed to a guy at about 6 o' clock. Ridiculous it was.

Something very similar happened to me for the first time a few days ago and then last night again. The first one I was running into the opponents box holding the 9 o'clock position and pressed lob pass by mistake. My player turns around and passes it to the 2 o'clock position to a player because it was the closest player to him. Still ridiculous and I was only on 1 bar assistance.

The second one, I was taking a free kick well in the opponents half by passing it to a player in the 11 o'clock position who was ahead of me up the pitch, but instead my player turns around and passes it back to a defender on the half way line in the 7 o'clock position. It was also in an important cup match online that I was losing. Seriously disgusted I was.:laugh: That was with 3 bar assistance which I never really use.

Dodgy, dodgy programming.

 

[EthanLionel]

Something very similar happened to me for the first time a few days ago and then last night again. The first one I was running into the opponents box holding the 9 o'clock position and pressed lob pass by mistake. My player turns around and passes it to the 2 o'clock position to a player because it was the closest player to him. Still ridiculous and I was only on 1 bar assistance.

The second one, I was taking a free kick well in the opponents half by passing it to a player in the 11 o'clock position who was ahead of me up the pitch, but instead my player turns around and passes it back to a defender on the half way line in the 7 o'clock position. It was also in an important cup match online that I was losing. Seriously disgusted I was. That was with 3 bar assistance which I never really use.

Dodgy, dodgy programming.

It's always in the opposite direction when it happens, right? I think they should fix the analog stick direction detection. It's too sensitive at times, I think. The thing is, it detects a slight tilt of the analog stick when released.

This video is good example of the analog stick direction detection sensitivity.
The direction of my analog stick is to the right, when I quickly release the stick it tilt slightly to the left before settling in the middle. The games sometimes detects that slight tilt, which cause the player to face the opposite after I release the stick. It also applies to passing.
[youtube]u-PkErhlnmE&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

 

[Rat Monkey]

It's always like that. Passing the ball to a direction then the ball goes to the opposite. I think they should fix the analog stick direction detection. It's to sensitive I think. The thing is they are detecting a slight tilt of the analog stick when released.

This video is good example of the analog stick direction detection sensitivity.
The direction of my analog stick is to the right, when I quickly release the stick it tilt slightly to the left before settling in the middle. It cause the player to face the left after I release the stick.

Thats not what happened. I was holding the direction up to after the pass. The assisted programming was just dreadful.

EDIT: Although, now that I think of it. Maybe I did change direction at the last second on the first time it happened, because I passed it instead of shooting and did take my hand off the direction at the last minute, but I certainly didn't press the stick in the opposite direction where the ball actually went. I'll keep an eye out for it next time to make sure. The second time it happened I definitely didn't change direction on the stick.

 

[EthanLionel]

Thats not what happened. I was holding the direction up to after the pass. The assisted programming was just dreadful.

EDIT: Although, now that I think of it. Maybe I did change direction at the last second on the first time it happened, because I passed it instead of shooting and did take my hand off the direction at the last minute, but I certainly didn't press the stick in the opposite direction where the ball actually went. I'll keep an eye out for it next time to make sure. The second time it happened I definitely didn't change direction on the stick.

Try not to changed the direction of the stick or release it until the ball left the passer. It worked for me, might work for you too.

 

[Rat Monkey]

Try not to changed the direction of the stick or release it until the ball left the passer. It worked for me, might work for you too.

I'll watch out for it to make sure.

 

[IronCity]

i play with pass support of zero, which is just fine for offline. but i went online today for the first time and learned the hard way that zero online << zero offline. not sure why it has to be that different

 

[Rat Monkey]

i play with pass support of zero, which is just fine for offline. but i went online today for the first time and learned the hard way that zero online << zero offline. not sure why it has to be that different

Its probably the input lag. Also, I'd imagine its alot harder playing people with those controls than against the AI. Were you playing someone with the zero or assisted?

 

[Ali]

FYI from what I've noticed, the direction the pass is played is normally the direction you initially hold when holding the pass button. So if I hold up and :x:, then change my mind and decide I want to play it down, it'll go with the first choice. So changing the direction of your left stick when holding the pass button does bugger all.

 

[matthewjohn85]

if they can go from 2015 to 16 like the improvement from 2014 to 15 then i think we will have a near perfect game but until then it's going to be the same issue's the whole year so ask yourself would you eat shit food that was served to you? then why put up with it for the sake of putting up with it? bin it like you should!

 

[IronCity]

Its probably the input lag. Also, I'd imagine its alot harder playing people with those controls than against the AI. Were you playing someone with the zero or assisted?

person was probably assisted since i tried 3 or 4 times for an opponent with zero level and could fine none, then opened it up to any, and had an opponent in seconds.

 

[rebelinho]

FYI from what I've noticed, the direction the pass is played is normally the direction you initially hold when holding the pass button. So if I hold up and :x:, then change my mind and decide I want to play it down, it'll go with the first choice. So changing the direction of your left stick when holding the pass button does bugger all.

And if you press :x: again in another direction, before the player making the pass, it will just add more power to the previous pass. The only way to change the direction of a pass is to cancel the previous action, by using the super cancel ( :R1: + :R2: ), and making a new one.

 

[EthanLionel]

And if you press :x: again in another direction, before the player making the pass, it will just add more power to the previous pass. The only way to change the direction of a pass is to cancel the previous action, by using the super cancel ( :R1: + :R2: ), and making a new one.

You can change the direction of the pass if you like, but you have to be very quick in changing the the direction just like what I did in the video posted below. You are dealing with a fraction of a second here so quickness is the key. In other words, it's not easy to do unless you pre planned to change the direction of the pass just like what I did in the video below.


In the video below, you'll notice that when I press the pass button, my analog stick is pointing at a specific direction. As i'm still holding the pass, I changed the direction of my analog stick. When I release the pass button, it will pass to the last direction the analog stick is pointing at.
[youtube]A1OIlJmASZU&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

Since your on PC, you can do the test yourself with PS3 Input visualizer and record your gameplay.

FYI from what I've noticed, the direction the pass is played is normally the direction you initially hold when holding the pass button. So if I hold up and :x:, then change my mind and decide I want to play it down, it'll go with the first choice. So changing the direction of your left stick when holding the pass button does bugger all.

The pass power gauge will take less than 1/3 of a second to get full. I don't think it's even possible to change you mind that quickly.

 

[jELN01]

The truth is this obnoxious, pathetic, excremental excuse of a sport game interferes too much, it is programmed to sabotage every thing You do.

The game designers and programmers are a bunch of arrogant, cunning malicious, annoying, dishonest, unethical sadists. They took your money, make you enraged with mathematical certainty (because they can) and then taunt you some more (asking "Where is the defense?" after the script suddenly pulled your defenders out of position).

hew: