Data Pack 1 Released
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Ali
It is happening again
Yes, but I haven't been on it for a few weeks. :ninja:
I don't think kits/emblems are reset.
Found this on Twitter and according to Google Translate it says the DP2 will come out in November? Have not seen this anywhere else.
"La notizia più importante che accompagna l'uscita della patch 1.02.02 per PES 2016 non è, però, questo semplice e (forse) insignificante rimedio grafico, quanto piuttosto l'annuncio di un secondo importante aggiornamento per PES 2016 previsto per la fine di novembre. "
"The most important news that accompanies the release of the 1.2.02 patch for PES 2016 is not , however , this simple and ( possibly ) meaningless remedy graph , but rather the announcement of a second major update for PES 2016 expected by the end of November."
http://www.diggita.it/v.php?id=1501267
"La notizia più importante che accompagna l'uscita della patch 1.02.02 per PES 2016 non è, però, questo semplice e (forse) insignificante rimedio grafico, quanto piuttosto l'annuncio di un secondo importante aggiornamento per PES 2016 previsto per la fine di novembre. "
"The most important news that accompanies the release of the 1.2.02 patch for PES 2016 is not , however , this simple and ( possibly ) meaningless remedy graph , but rather the announcement of a second major update for PES 2016 expected by the end of November."
http://www.diggita.it/v.php?id=1501267
matthewjohn85
Registered User
[MENTION=180348]Ali[/MENTION] this is what they're saying now: http://bit.ly/K-dp1
SportGameFan
Registered User
I assume the 'remedy graph' is the banner correction? I bet the 'major update' will be the new stadium...
God knows with Konami!
God knows with Konami!
Parkinfed
Registered User
What you're looking for is this LINK
(Let me know if you somehow can't see the linked content (probably because of regions and all), I'll post a screen shot...)
[MENTION=180348]Ali[/MENTION] Sorry for posting while not owning the game, I couldn't help it.
Transcript
The patch file （ver1.02.01）will be released on 5/11/2015
*The issues below will be fixed
・Competition banners of [Online Challenge Cup] and [VS COM Challenge Cup] have not been displayed correctly.
Note that the issues below, that have been requested by our customers, will be resolved by the next patch file that is currently scheduled to release within this year.
・[DP1.0 causes over writing the player appearances]
・[Roster update]
We deeply apologise for any inconvenience caused.
(emphasis added)
paul2478
Moderator
At 11.59pm
Joking aside I would expect it the 1st or 2nd week of December.
Cool ! Just in time for the winter mercato ! :laugh:
hmy::clap:
I downloaded it a couple of days ago but I don't know if this it's update or the one before 1.02 changed the game for me a bit. I play mostly exhibition games on manual -2 speed, which were very balanced and fun before the patches. Now it's slower, less repsonsive and CPU teams tend to focus on scoring as many goals as possible in the beginning in a very with no variety and in a very repetitive way. Would be nice to get some feedback from the expert here on their experience after the patch
badassdewi
Registered User
Gripes
...thats right, gripes! Always reading the posts on here, so here's my two-penneth for what it is worth
1) KONAMI providing us with a very promising game, only to completely blow it at the finishing line with some of the worst customer service/experience in recent history. Possibly to drive us towards purchasing stuff on MyPES, or through pure laziness, the fact that the game will be updated most likely late December, and then be out of date when the Jan window opens, is absolutely farcical.
2) The communication from KONAMI is always in poor broken English.. often very vague, and often just purely confusing. We get that the team who works on the game is in Japan, but surely they have someone who can put together a clear statement that addresses the issues at hand. The poor communication just damages their already terrible relationship with us even more.
The massive delays in communication, or the fact we just get plain ignored, shows their withering contempt for the loyal PES fan
3) Love the past.. play the future! You literally couldn't make it up! We better love the past, as we have no choice BUT to play the past
4) The fact that squads are hilariously so out of date is bad enough. The fact that they have then crippled the community and their ability to fix it (with the DP2.0 nonsense) is just vindictive & cruel to us. Its basically saying "don't play the game you want/expect... play MyPES and spend yet more £££ on a 70% complete game". And don't try to fix it before 2016 either... and when it is fixed, it will need to be fixed again anyway, and you will all still be grumbling.
It is blatantly intentional that this would happen. It was always meant to happen, as shown on the info with the patch. We are supposed to get angry, fed up, and driven towards the online game modes that are up-to-date in the hope we will spend more £££. There is no way they could be this bumbling and incompetent on purpose
This was a similar thing when they inexplicably removed the LEAGUE function from PES 2014. Who on earth thought that was a good idea?! Oh right...
5) The gameplay for me is fine. I enjoy the game... I enjoy getting thrashed on Expert, as i love a challenge. The truth is the scripting thing only happens once in a blue moon for me (personally speaking) and if i take the lead i go all-out-defence/hack/fight/scrap so that they cannot score. For me thats part of the thrill of the game when you somehow win against the odds. I also haven't spotted a problem with the keepers either, besides when you play against Beginner/Amateur level CPU opponents and it seems you can shoot straight through them. Think that is more down to the fact there is no pressure on your player when he picks his spot.
The only gameplay issues i have are the fouls. A small tweak is needed so that for all the times you get shoved off the ball/clattered that occasionally there is a free kick given. Just 2-3 a game would greatly improve it.
For the record the wars me and my bro have online remind me of the glory days. Fouls-a-plenty, chances to score chips thanks to our kamikaze triangle-button keeper action, and an enthralling game with twists, turns, and different kinds of goals. I think they nailed that this year. So if they are capable of achieving all that, then surely they are capable of patching some up-to-date squads... if they really wanted to.
6) Adam Bhatti. To most people he is coming across as an absolute tool. On another side, he has just been made Grand Lord Vizier of KONAMI in Europe. Mysteriously he receives a strange, unheralded promotion just before a shitstorm.
I think we can all agree if you were getting well paid, jetting round the world meeting Neymar, putting a bland corporate smile on - we'd all do it if we could. And the nepotistic content-makers who are still sticking up for KONAMI have all had a little slice of this too (conventions, free gifts, golden ltd edition controllers etc). Don't get me wrong... outrageously in their debt for all they do, and the effort they put in. They more than deserve this reward... but it sets a precedent to not bite the hand that feeds (which is why Asim Tanvir's columns/criticism of this latest farce came as a bit of a surprise)
The fact is Bhatti's true job description is nothing to do with us, nothing to do with the community and nothing to do with making PES a game worthy of your £££.
He is basically an online figurehead/punching bag for us, whilst KONAMI drive us towards paying for more content on MyPES. Someone has to take the bullet. With the obvious internal turmoil over at KONAMI it is becoming blindingly obvious now that no matter how good the game actually is (which has always been their strength over FIFA) that they cannot compete with FIFA sales-wise due to the lack of licenses. Therefore the only way to make up the shortfall is to milk the loyal.
Phew! That was a long lunch break... felt good!
And relax.....
...thats right, gripes! Always reading the posts on here, so here's my two-penneth for what it is worth
1) KONAMI providing us with a very promising game, only to completely blow it at the finishing line with some of the worst customer service/experience in recent history. Possibly to drive us towards purchasing stuff on MyPES, or through pure laziness, the fact that the game will be updated most likely late December, and then be out of date when the Jan window opens, is absolutely farcical.
2) The communication from KONAMI is always in poor broken English.. often very vague, and often just purely confusing. We get that the team who works on the game is in Japan, but surely they have someone who can put together a clear statement that addresses the issues at hand. The poor communication just damages their already terrible relationship with us even more.
The massive delays in communication, or the fact we just get plain ignored, shows their withering contempt for the loyal PES fan
3) Love the past.. play the future! You literally couldn't make it up! We better love the past, as we have no choice BUT to play the past
4) The fact that squads are hilariously so out of date is bad enough. The fact that they have then crippled the community and their ability to fix it (with the DP2.0 nonsense) is just vindictive & cruel to us. Its basically saying "don't play the game you want/expect... play MyPES and spend yet more £££ on a 70% complete game". And don't try to fix it before 2016 either... and when it is fixed, it will need to be fixed again anyway, and you will all still be grumbling.
It is blatantly intentional that this would happen. It was always meant to happen, as shown on the info with the patch. We are supposed to get angry, fed up, and driven towards the online game modes that are up-to-date in the hope we will spend more £££. There is no way they could be this bumbling and incompetent on purpose
This was a similar thing when they inexplicably removed the LEAGUE function from PES 2014. Who on earth thought that was a good idea?! Oh right...
5) The gameplay for me is fine. I enjoy the game... I enjoy getting thrashed on Expert, as i love a challenge. The truth is the scripting thing only happens once in a blue moon for me (personally speaking) and if i take the lead i go all-out-defence/hack/fight/scrap so that they cannot score. For me thats part of the thrill of the game when you somehow win against the odds. I also haven't spotted a problem with the keepers either, besides when you play against Beginner/Amateur level CPU opponents and it seems you can shoot straight through them. Think that is more down to the fact there is no pressure on your player when he picks his spot.
The only gameplay issues i have are the fouls. A small tweak is needed so that for all the times you get shoved off the ball/clattered that occasionally there is a free kick given. Just 2-3 a game would greatly improve it.
For the record the wars me and my bro have online remind me of the glory days. Fouls-a-plenty, chances to score chips thanks to our kamikaze triangle-button keeper action, and an enthralling game with twists, turns, and different kinds of goals. I think they nailed that this year. So if they are capable of achieving all that, then surely they are capable of patching some up-to-date squads... if they really wanted to.
6) Adam Bhatti. To most people he is coming across as an absolute tool. On another side, he has just been made Grand Lord Vizier of KONAMI in Europe. Mysteriously he receives a strange, unheralded promotion just before a shitstorm.
I think we can all agree if you were getting well paid, jetting round the world meeting Neymar, putting a bland corporate smile on - we'd all do it if we could. And the nepotistic content-makers who are still sticking up for KONAMI have all had a little slice of this too (conventions, free gifts, golden ltd edition controllers etc). Don't get me wrong... outrageously in their debt for all they do, and the effort they put in. They more than deserve this reward... but it sets a precedent to not bite the hand that feeds (which is why Asim Tanvir's columns/criticism of this latest farce came as a bit of a surprise)
The fact is Bhatti's true job description is nothing to do with us, nothing to do with the community and nothing to do with making PES a game worthy of your £££.
He is basically an online figurehead/punching bag for us, whilst KONAMI drive us towards paying for more content on MyPES. Someone has to take the bullet. With the obvious internal turmoil over at KONAMI it is becoming blindingly obvious now that no matter how good the game actually is (which has always been their strength over FIFA) that they cannot compete with FIFA sales-wise due to the lack of licenses. Therefore the only way to make up the shortfall is to milk the loyal.
Phew! That was a long lunch break... felt good!
And relax.....
I mostly agree with everything negative you said but also with this positive. I have this exact experience regarding goalkeepers, scripting and fouls on Superstar. I do find maybe that the scripting is a little bit more of a problem for me than for you but I try to fight it the same way. I will get it every time I play a rival or a team with higher team spirit. I've recently just replayed the same match about 5 times losing all of them taking at least 2 obviously scripted goals with the same tactics until I changed attacking from center to wide which brought team spirit up quite a few points and I managed to win 1-0 in a very gritty match. I didn't change the way I was playing or defending at all.
I think this difference would be fairer if it happened from a defensive tactical change, being just the attacking side of it I don't think such a change is justified unless if for team spirit scripting. They have to tone that sh*t down!
I'd say I get obvious scripting that makes me restart a match over and over until I feel nothing untoward happened (even if I lose in the end) in about 5 or 6 ML domestic matches and a couple of CL matches per season, which I think is too much. Last year I only ever noticed it every time I had to play Real or Barcelona in the CL, man those teams were nasty!
As for fouls I find most of the time it's kind of ok, I get fouls in my favour and free kicks, but occasionally I get a game in which my attacks are constantly interrupted by nasty sliding tackles over and over again, I just can't build anything, and then I look at the stats in the end and zero fouls! That's annoying! But it's rare.
SportGameFan
Registered User
Well, I wouldn't want to meet Neymar, no thanks. I wouldn't flush my integrity down the toilet in order that I lie and cheat the paying public. Bhatti is nothing more than a dodgy small-time salesman, watch his interviews, he comes across as disingenuous and arrogant. 'Punch bag' or not, he gets paid well for it, I'm sure! His job title (according to his LinkedIn profile page) is: Global Product and Brand Manager for Pro Evolution Soccer series
... I'd say that that has a lot to do with the public, also, one of his former jobs was that of 'Events Organiser.' Bhatti's Bullshit serves only to antagonise PES players/former players, he gets paid handsomely for supposedly being Konami's scapegoat.
He's a kid acting like a man, and failing miserably! Yes, it is weird that they promoted him, to me it shows that they no longer care about the PES series- it's like putting a pyromaniac in charge of a fire station. A rather crude analogy but he is totally the wrong person for the job, are you implying that that is the whole idea?
Anyway... again, I wouldn't want to meet Neymar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr2_DVlAs0w
I love Bhatti's reactions, especially at the end- priceless!
badassdewi
Registered User
Plus
I hear ya'... for me the scripting is just the computer on the top level getting a goal.
It should be that a 57-rated Azerbaijan international defender just can't stop a top international player scoring. If it goes beyond that, and its football-on-rails, then that's different. Usually if the CPU tries to troll me with that I try and figure a way around it.
For me I don't mind losing games, and even if its infuriating for me its more "you sneaky bastard, i'll get you next time!" as opposed to throwing my PS3 through the window. You basically just figure out ways to get your own back.
I'm finding a particular sweet spot on corners recently which is helping tip the balance back.
I do think the team spirit/emotions is a big part of it too. Everyone says how its easier to concede straight after you score (which could be the emotion thing kicking in and empowering your opponent maybe?). Would be interesting to turn that off and see if there is any major difference.
But as my original post says... nothing has jumped out as me as seriously flawed, besides the lack of free kicks. For the most part I really enjoy playing it... but then again i am not on it all hours of the day as i might have been in the past.
Every year you have people complain because it doesn't meet their criteria... sometimes there are people who want a slow tactical game, and others who don't want a challenge and think they should win all the time. Its a spectrum of expectations, and, just speaking about myself, i found this game to be my cup of tea. I have complete respect for people who don't feel the same way (i hated PES 2014 and consigned it to the shelf about two weeks after purchase, and persisted with an updated PES 13 for a year)
... that does not excuse the execrable KONAMI situation though! Perhaps its the cynic in me, but being taken for granted and milked does not sit well with me.
I hear ya'... for me the scripting is just the computer on the top level getting a goal.
It should be that a 57-rated Azerbaijan international defender just can't stop a top international player scoring. If it goes beyond that, and its football-on-rails, then that's different. Usually if the CPU tries to troll me with that I try and figure a way around it.
For me I don't mind losing games, and even if its infuriating for me its more "you sneaky bastard, i'll get you next time!" as opposed to throwing my PS3 through the window. You basically just figure out ways to get your own back.
I'm finding a particular sweet spot on corners recently which is helping tip the balance back.
I do think the team spirit/emotions is a big part of it too. Everyone says how its easier to concede straight after you score (which could be the emotion thing kicking in and empowering your opponent maybe?). Would be interesting to turn that off and see if there is any major difference.
But as my original post says... nothing has jumped out as me as seriously flawed, besides the lack of free kicks. For the most part I really enjoy playing it... but then again i am not on it all hours of the day as i might have been in the past.
Every year you have people complain because it doesn't meet their criteria... sometimes there are people who want a slow tactical game, and others who don't want a challenge and think they should win all the time. Its a spectrum of expectations, and, just speaking about myself, i found this game to be my cup of tea. I have complete respect for people who don't feel the same way (i hated PES 2014 and consigned it to the shelf about two weeks after purchase, and persisted with an updated PES 13 for a year)
... that does not excuse the execrable KONAMI situation though! Perhaps its the cynic in me, but being taken for granted and milked does not sit well with me.
badassdewi
Registered User
Bhatti
Again, when it comes to Bhatti it comes down to that word again - Nepotism.
In a perfect world, where the publisher is really looking out for fans first, and cold hard profit is secondary to the experience of these fans, then a PES Brand Manager job role would encompass the following traits -
1) Open to VALID criticism
2) Willing to answer every paying fans comments (within reason. Death threats/trolling etc are not this. But there are widespread reports of him blocking people with very real frustrations and gripes, which to me is unacceptable)
3) Be willing to question KONAMI's current practices, up to the highest sources, and actually represent the paying public.
4) Be transparent and open regarding errors (and the reasons for them. The transfer thing is simply too incompetent to be an error, so he should say "we want you to play and buy stuff in MyPES over the offline stuff, as Neymar needs his new swimming pool tiling".
Which would never happen
5) Personally put together all of the press releases/messages released both online and in-game, so that they are actually coherent and give us the correct info (as opposed to the vague Japan-glish gibberish we seem to get at the moment)
6) Not disappear for days on end when a crisis is happening, and then reappear saying his twitter account (which he was previously happy to post on when the initial good reviews came in, and when his promotion was announced) is now a private one and not for PES complaints. That is effectively passing the buck back to his bosses... even though we are told that this is his main role!
Late transfers are not a world-ending crisis... but thousands upon thousands of people who have bought this game cannot play it in the way we were told before we purchased it. That to me is a massive crisis for KONAMI.
7) Not tell outright lies. Too many things to recall here, but there are things promised (option file stuff, slots, transfers, 'extra stuff!') that simply did not materialised. A post-purchase apology, after we have spent £40-£50, is simply not acceptable.
To me this game has a limited shelf life. You have a year basically till the next one is out, and if we are posting on here then its pretty clear we care about it and will probably buy the next one (no matter how much we doth protest).
The only difference for me is i wont buy a PS4 purely to play this, so i can actually see me finishing after this year.
Whilst the gameplay rocks, KONAMI have basically made this game unplayable offline for a lot of us until the transfers are complete (and our editing colleagues can actually go to work and fill the gaps).
This has taken 3 months off the gameplay life of this game for me already.
I'm playing MyPES, and the occasional exhibition match offline, but cannot do any real master league/league/cup stuff till the teams are not hideously out of date. Maybe thats me being picky, but the fact is most people do not want to play a football game that is so out of date. Otherwise we'd go pay 50p at the Entertainment Exchange for last years edition!
CYPES's great file helped temporarily, but then the Data Pack bodged a lot of it up. Fingers crossed that KONAMI fix this in the next week or so, and CyPES carry on kicking ass and get their next update out before December, otherwise this year of PES will be a write off!
Again, when it comes to Bhatti it comes down to that word again - Nepotism.
In a perfect world, where the publisher is really looking out for fans first, and cold hard profit is secondary to the experience of these fans, then a PES Brand Manager job role would encompass the following traits -
1) Open to VALID criticism
2) Willing to answer every paying fans comments (within reason. Death threats/trolling etc are not this. But there are widespread reports of him blocking people with very real frustrations and gripes, which to me is unacceptable)
3) Be willing to question KONAMI's current practices, up to the highest sources, and actually represent the paying public.
4) Be transparent and open regarding errors (and the reasons for them. The transfer thing is simply too incompetent to be an error, so he should say "we want you to play and buy stuff in MyPES over the offline stuff, as Neymar needs his new swimming pool tiling".
Which would never happen
5) Personally put together all of the press releases/messages released both online and in-game, so that they are actually coherent and give us the correct info (as opposed to the vague Japan-glish gibberish we seem to get at the moment)
6) Not disappear for days on end when a crisis is happening, and then reappear saying his twitter account (which he was previously happy to post on when the initial good reviews came in, and when his promotion was announced) is now a private one and not for PES complaints. That is effectively passing the buck back to his bosses... even though we are told that this is his main role!
Late transfers are not a world-ending crisis... but thousands upon thousands of people who have bought this game cannot play it in the way we were told before we purchased it. That to me is a massive crisis for KONAMI.
7) Not tell outright lies. Too many things to recall here, but there are things promised (option file stuff, slots, transfers, 'extra stuff!') that simply did not materialised. A post-purchase apology, after we have spent £40-£50, is simply not acceptable.
To me this game has a limited shelf life. You have a year basically till the next one is out, and if we are posting on here then its pretty clear we care about it and will probably buy the next one (no matter how much we doth protest).
The only difference for me is i wont buy a PS4 purely to play this, so i can actually see me finishing after this year.
Whilst the gameplay rocks, KONAMI have basically made this game unplayable offline for a lot of us until the transfers are complete (and our editing colleagues can actually go to work and fill the gaps).
This has taken 3 months off the gameplay life of this game for me already.
I'm playing MyPES, and the occasional exhibition match offline, but cannot do any real master league/league/cup stuff till the teams are not hideously out of date. Maybe thats me being picky, but the fact is most people do not want to play a football game that is so out of date. Otherwise we'd go pay 50p at the Entertainment Exchange for last years edition!
CYPES's great file helped temporarily, but then the Data Pack bodged a lot of it up. Fingers crossed that KONAMI fix this in the next week or so, and CyPES carry on kicking ass and get their next update out before December, otherwise this year of PES will be a write off!
PES Fans are Insane
Albert Einstein is widely credited with saying “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results”
The above quote defines most PES fans. I keep wondering why buy the game every year......and expect different results. :no:
Unbelievable. :blush:
Albert Einstein is widely credited with saying “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results”
The above quote defines most PES fans. I keep wondering why buy the game every year......and expect different results. :no:
Unbelievable. :blush:
Well, personally it's only the 3rd year I buy it and previous years I was on PS3 and was always sorted with option files, and I only bought the game a few months down the line.
This is the first year I bought it new on day one, and with no PS4 option file and their transfers screw-up I learned I won't do it again next year for sure, will just go back to waiting a few months and buying 2nd hand as before... So less money for them.
And if I knew I couldn't trust them for the transfers I'd have kept playing this on the PS3 until there were option files for the PS4 but it's too late for that now, can't take that PS4 back...
I previously would get burned by the "Fish" and the "Battyman" ....see, i have been coming here since 2004. I have learned my lesson.
Just preaching to the choir now.
Keep the PS4 it is a great gaming system and its integration social media.
Peace
badassdewi
Registered User
In response to that, i would say that we are all here on a PES forum discussing it, so there must be hope even in you
The game itself plays grand, and I can get some serious enjoyment out of it 1 v 1 and even against the CPU. I do not regret my £££ spent on it (unlike PES 2014)
My gripe is the fact they have a social media presence that crows about "play the future" and how good the reviews are, but which then hides and sulks and doesn't address what are very serious issues regarding the game being horrendously out of date (aside from a blanket 'sorry, we know about it but we'll tell you months in the future what we'll do about when its too late').
The fact is whilst they dilly-dally the gameplay lifespan of this game is ebbing away.
By January it will already be too late, and out of date again