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Demo gameplay First Impressions

MathisBorgen

Registered User
My impressions after a couple of days of playing

Improvements and additions that I liked:

* Dribble movement: the ability to get around players.
* Long passing: Awesome to see long curled passes hitting the target! :-D
* That the players continue to run/try to regain balance when under pressure, not coming to a halt like before.
* The ability to choose targets at set pieces.

Things that need improvement/tweaking:

*The GK's, making serious mistakes like standing still, not catching loose balls, too slow getting down, unnatural short reach at some shots, not holding the ball when they should etc. (In one game, De Gea ran away towards the corner flag when Ibra was on his way 1 on 1, extremely frustrating!) (I know keepers are being worked on.. :p)
* Some players are made too good, like Pato; he's almost unstoppable! Not fun to play against.
* Defenders should be harder to get around, if Pato comes against Vidic and Rio for example, he can easilly get past them, even if they "nudge" him and should normally gain posession of the ball.
* When playing on the same team as my mate on top player (we were United and played against Milan), the CPU got considerably better, almost unnaturally better. Didn't make ANY mistakes and was almost impossible to regain possesion from. It was like the CPU dropped helping our team in defence and concentrated everything on the CPU team. (This only happened agains Milan though, probably because Pato, Ibra and Robinho are too "overdone", got through way to easily)
* Some players are not made good enough, like Chicharito for example (72 overall..? :-/)
* Passing and shooting need to be tweaked.
* Some tweaking when players are recieving passes are needed as well, as well as general tweaking in movement.

Summary:

It needs better balance between defence and attack, at the moment attacking is too easy compared to defending, and keepers need a serious overhaul, but that is reportedly getting worked on. If the other negatives I mentioned gets worked on, this could be the best PES yet IMO! :-D Hopefully the next demo has sorted most (hopefully all) of these things.

Anyway; it's important to remember that this is an unfinished build, like a rough scetch. But if the rough scetch is this good, then I can't wait for the full game experience!

Oh, and one last thing; PLEASE Konami, don't release 100 different EU region versions like PES 2011, the best OF makers are generally in the UK, so those outside the UK can't make use of their awesome OFs, witch is really frustrating.. :-/
 

udin23

Registered User
I find it harder to defence in PES 2012 than PES 2011...before u can simply press pressure and ul win the ball quite easily..but not this time...u cnt rush by putting pressure on the attacking player..i like it ..more challenging
 

IronCity

Banned
I would love to play the demo - 290 waiting minutes and two PSN disconnects last night and I am still without a download.
 

BigstickRic

Registered User
I would love to play the demo - 290 waiting minutes and two PSN disconnects last night and I am still without a download.

At least you will have it eventually.. Us on the 360 dont even have a demo release date yet. Nice one.... I'll just be sitting here when ye decide when in SEPTEMBER :huh: dICKHEADS :realmad:
 

Ali

It is happening again
I would love to play the demo - 290 waiting minutes and two PSN disconnects last night and I am still without a download.

Sounds like your internet is as bad as mine!

Someone mentioned that Pato is unstoppable.... what about flipping Rooney? He just powers past you at every opportunity.
 

DIECI

Registered User
I don't know why Konami would release a demo in such conditions. We know that there's a 2nd one coming that will im sure be much improved but why show a bad unfinished product to the public? How many people will play this demo and be turned off maybe not even knowing there's a 2nd one coming ? I don't understand the logic behind it .... in any case.... What I think so far after having played a handful of games. Player speeds are back to older PEs games, fast and quick, passing is good but I think in 2011 it was better, the animation is amazing but there are strange moments of speed bursts that Im sure will be fixed by the final version. Now what bugs me and needs fixing, and Im hoping that these things are still broken and not working properly for this demo.

1. shooting, it feels too assisted
2. the goalies are simply horrible
3. a. dribbling and close control is too good
b. passing is also too good, ball seems to get to the guy you intend to pass it to every time, it even seems like the defense is controlled to the point they will not get that ball and intercept it so it gets to the designated player. This with the super good dribbling and you could play like Barca with every team. This needs to be addressed
4. Tackling.... omg whats the deal with this? broken? I hope... you press X and your guy just won't attack the offensive player with the ball or will simply run by him. Again this adds to the Barca offensive effect.

These are the things I noticed that need work on, and As I said... I hope they're not properly implemented in this demo because its such an early build. If Konami could fix those issues to where they need to be, with the added animation, player movement and AI then this could be a great PES, but they need to address those issues!
 

IronCity

Banned
It still amazing to me to read other blogs saying goalies have been massively improved but read every single keeper comment here being that they are terrible. I trust this site.
 

IronCity

Banned
Sounds like your internet is as bad as mine!

Someone mentioned that Pato is unstoppable.... what about flipping Rooney? He just powers past you at every opportunity.

I bet you can easily put it in the back of the net from 60feet with Rooney in PES2012 as well.
 

DIECI

Registered User
It still amazing to me to read other blogs saying goalies have been massively improved but read every single keeper comment here being that they are terrible. I trust this site.

maybe in a later code they are improved but in the current demo they are horribly bad, worst than 2008 keepers! Just simply broken! they drop the softest shots and cant save anything decent shot at them. Im sure they will be better in the next DEMO which should be close to the finished product. Also I hope what I pointed out above gets addressed.
 

Kefir

Registered User
maybe in a later code they are improved but in the current demo they are horribly bad, worst than 2008 keepers! Just simply broken! they drop the softest shots and cant save anything decent shot at them. Im sure they will be better in the next DEMO which should be close to the finished product. Also I hope what I pointed out above gets addressed.

Just relax first of all Jon from Twitter said that from now and till release work will be concentrated around keepers.

Im still pissed that Haturo forgot to give the demo to Hatsuda which is why we dont have demo on xbox.
 

DIECI

Registered User
Sounds like your internet is as bad as mine!

Someone mentioned that Pato is unstoppable.... what about flipping Rooney? He just powers past you at every opportunity.



thigs gets back to my point that tacking is broken. The demo is very incomplete, the quick players and movement is fine if they compensate with better tackling. We can't have every single team pass and dribble like they're Barca. A balance must be found. I know the defense set up is good but tacking must must must improve and be like other PES games, hold up play with X+R2 will only work sometimes, you will get Messi/Ronaldo abusers online that will rape you without descent taclking implemented. I just pray that its one of the things thare not implemented into the demo yet and will be fixed for the next one.
 

DIECI

Registered User
Just relax first of all Jon from Twitter said that from now and till release work will be concentrated around keepers.

Im still pissed that Haturo forgot to give the demo to Hatsuda which is why we dont have demo on xbox.


cool that makes me feel better.... Did he mention other things they will work on like the shooting and tackling? ;)
 

Makavelian

Registered User
Immensely.
I'm sorry. that's all hear in my head when i see players dribbling in pes 2012. Thought i'd share it with you beautiful people.
 
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