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Demo gameplay First Impressions

Amateur

Amateur

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the nameless said:
In my first impression post I said it was well better than 2011, and that I was loveing it. On playing it more, there are SO MANY issues for me.

1, Keepers are awful, they always have been but in this version, they are truely something else.

2, My defenders just run to the side and leave huge gaps.

3, I have played it on regular, pro, and top player, and the computer just skill my head off on all settings - they run, do the slightest little body fient and they are miles ahead of a hapless defender.

4, As part of the above, once a player has been turned, he takes an age to get back on track.

5, The following players are impossible to keep up with, foul, get past or stop: Lavezi, Rooney, Berbatov, Hulk, Varela, Cavani.

I am now just frustrated most of the time with it, I think this will be my last night of it before going back to 2011, maybe starting one last master league, then trying the 2nd demo mid september.
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If that is true and the released product is more or less the same, I think if that's the case then PES12 is just further indication of the fact that Konami and EA Sports are trying to perfect a formula that no longer has the potential or capacity to improve.

The same thing happened with the FIFA series, everyone said that FIFA09 was near perfection and just needed some refinement here and there, then FIFA10 came out and a lot of people did not considered an improvement; then FIFA11 came out and a lot of people thought it only got worst.... Which indicates that something is wrong with the formula itself, perhaps it's time for Konami and EA Sports to start from scratch with a whole new concept.
 
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James_dean

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sportyfox said:
Ermm so this a proof? You are looking at the first demo man, not even the second demo or the final product. Come on now:no:
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A demo of a game is to show how the final product will be like. It´s simply an advertisement.
Why did Konami release this demo? I have no idea. The amount of bugs and faults in this demo is just to much for me and others and to think that this would impress video gamers is beyond me. If the dribbling, shooting and goalkeeping will not be fixed in the next demo I will not buy this game.
At least Pes 2011 had some Pes magic despite it´s many problems.
 
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sportyfox said:
Ermm so this a proof? You are looking at the first demo man, not even the second demo or the final product. Come on now:no:
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I'm just having a laugh mate, though demos are precisely that, a demonstration on which to base observations; nothing wrong about adding a little humor to an obvious observation.
 
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Amateur said:
I'm just having a laugh mate, though demos are precisely that, a demonstration on which to base observations; nothing wrong about adding a little humor to an obvious observation.
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My apologies then. I'm on other forums as well and I can't help but get angry at some of the comments on there from people who don't know what they are talking about. I thought you were one of them:) I guess I gotta relax:cool:

I personally think the second demo will show the progression they made and that's why they gave us this first, kind of buggy, demo.

We will see soon...
 
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89cruefan

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I downloaded the demo last night and tbh i love it.

I hated the 2011 demo and it put me off.

However this years demo really does make me want pes2012 now. The movement is good (Still could use some improvement but better then 2011). The AI for me is a big big improvement.
The computer will actually give you a good game and will score and take a lot more chances then in 2011... I started on regular and in 2011 i usually get 2 shots max from the computer with usually neither on target and opposition goals coming from goalkeeping mistakes or penaltys. This year it seems a lot better, the opposition in one game had 8 shots with 6 being on target and scored 2 goals (I won the match 3-2 with a last minute goal).

Passing for me has improved, the control and movement and vision when passing has improved... However there still are some bits which could be improved and for me that is making long passes and trying to slot it through a good gap to set someone free.

Shooting has improved however i do not like the lack of control on the shot power.. If control on the shot power was brought back it would be almost perfect for me.

Dribbling and running has improved and i like how it is a bit more difficult to grap one player and just sprint to the by-line, cut back, pass and score. However it seems the players dont sprint to their full ability and at times there doesnt seem too much difference... Again a little tweak and this could be easily sorted

Goalkeepers for me have improved a lot. Saves are easier to make, easier to control and make the keeper come out and just generally better.

Penaltys have improved. They are a lot simpler to take and a lot simpler to try make a save.. in 2011 they were terrible and no matter what direction and technique to try save, you would move after the ball had hit the back of the net... This year it seems a lot more better

Now my big problem is the ratings... As usual they are not too great... Why the hell are Ac Milan better then United? Chicharito at 72ovr???? Thats on par with Gibson? De Gea, Lindegaard, Raf, Fab, Smalling, Ando are all underated... Berba at 80 seems underated too. No Welbeck, Cleverley, Macheda, Diouf or Pogba... A lack or Ravel Morrison... I am hoping for full teams to be a correct come the full game.

Unfortunately with this being a demo there is no way to tell whether some of the problems have been fixed... ie the player loyalty in ML.

But first impressions are good. If they just tweak around and make little improvements then it shall be fine.
 
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MysteryMan

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Desijut said:
That was nothing like Bergkamp's crazy touches like against argentina
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Thats true I was overstating that to make a point, but you can't deny that first touch and ball control is way better than it should be, I mean even defenders would do a similar thing as Nani did there.
 
Athlon_

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89cruefan said:
I downloaded the demo last night and tbh i love it.

I hated the 2011 demo and it put me off.

However this years demo really does make me want pes2012 now. The movement is good (Still could use some improvement but better then 2011). The AI for me is a big big improvement.
The computer will actually give you a good game and will score and take a lot more chances then in 2011... I started on regular and in 2011 i usually get 2 shots max from the computer with usually neither on target and opposition goals coming from goalkeeping mistakes or penaltys. This year it seems a lot better, the opposition in one game had 8 shots with 6 being on target and scored 2 goals (I won the match 3-2 with a last minute goal).

Passing for me has improved, the control and movement and vision when passing has improved... However there still are some bits which could be improved and for me that is making long passes and trying to slot it through a good gap to set someone free.

Shooting has improved however i do not like the lack of control on the shot power.. If control on the shot power was brought back it would be almost perfect for me.

Dribbling and running has improved and i like how it is a bit more difficult to grap one player and just sprint to the by-line, cut back, pass and score. However it seems the players dont sprint to their full ability and at times there doesnt seem too much difference... Again a little tweak and this could be easily sorted

Goalkeepers for me have improved a lot. Saves are easier to make, easier to control and make the keeper come out and just generally better.

Penaltys have improved. They are a lot simpler to take and a lot simpler to try make a save.. in 2011 they were terrible and no matter what direction and technique to try save, you would move after the ball had hit the back of the net... This year it seems a lot more better

Now my big problem is the ratings... As usual they are not too great... Why the hell are Ac Milan better then United? Chicharito at 72ovr???? Thats on par with Gibson? De Gea, Lindegaard, Raf, Fab, Smalling, Ando are all underated... Berba at 80 seems underated too. No Welbeck, Cleverley, Macheda, Diouf or Pogba... A lack or Ravel Morrison... I am hoping for full teams to be a correct come the full game.

Unfortunately with this being a demo there is no way to tell whether some of the problems have been fixed... ie the player loyalty in ML.

But first impressions are good. If they just tweak around and make little improvements then it shall be fine.
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Do you work for Konami or something? The Keepers are unbelievably useless. I mean, come on. Shooting is also much the same as 2011 and PES6. I for one hope the rumours about Seabass getting sacked are true. The more I played the demo the more I wanted to slap his fat little face. This game couldn't have been more of a botch if Ubisoft made it. Just for the defence system alone Seabass wants a P45.
 
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